Yeah, I’m part of the sheeple. Especially, on here, right? I’ve taken more heat for my stances than most. It would be a lot easier for me to just agree with people who mostly align with my ideology and not call them out on the few things I think they’re wrong about. That’s what sheeple do
Sure, burn it all down is an ethic, but it’s not 1) a plan, 2) is impossible, and 3) doesn’t get you what you claim to want.
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So slick slipping this completely debunked conspiracy theory in there.
It, in fact, will give a nearly exactly opposite result of the one he wants.
Her website is not a reliable source.
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Yes
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You honestly don’t think Sanders has a plan? He has more concrete plans than Warren who has yet to explain her full healthcare plan or her selective reduction of student and medical debt, etc.
Burning it all down is the way to go. It was just said above. Incremental change and acceptance of the establishment gives only temporary reprieve and mires us for another decade to achieve real change
Trump won on the promise of burning it all down. That’s what the people want. The problem is, he’s an imbecile and on the wrong side. We need to do exactly as he promised, but from the left
It’s NOT a conspiracy that he used the power of his office to get his son a seat on the board of an energy company in a field he knows nothing about for $50k/mo
That’s precisely the conspiracy, cite Biden using the power of his office to get his son a job.
O.M.G. Okay, a dude with ZERO experience in the energy field just gets handed $50k/mo. from a Ukrainian energy company. Total coincidence he just happened to be the vice president’s son. Happens all the time. If you really need citations I’ll look them up, but it seems so obviously corrupt it shouldn’t be necessary
We have the current GOP at basically 40 percent, with 5 percent of Independents going along for the ride most of the time with about 10 percent of independents as the max. (all numbers upcoming pulled roughly out of my ass) The left wing of the party is maybe 40 or 50 percent of the Democratic Party. The far left wing is maybe 10 percent of it. Inside this 10 percent is the burn it down wing, and most of the burn it down wing are not in the Democratic Party.
Based on my totally made up numbers, the Democrats have 55 percent to 45 percent as a majority in current times. You want to burn down probably 40-50 percent of the party, which leaves a third party (we’ll call them the third way party) of about 28% of the electorate. Now you’re left with the left wing of the party that didn’t want to burn it down, and the far left and not in the party that do, but we’ll align them anyway because ‘why not?’. That gets you to maybe 25 to 27 percent of the electorate, let’s say 27 for s’s and g’s just because this is all made up anyway.
The first three party election:
GOP: 45 percent
Third Way: 28 percent
The New Dems: 27 percent
kool, can’t wait for that 9-0 SC.
Yep, there is a ton of corruption but at least in the US it’s softer than what people like Cactus think and that is what makes it so hard to root out. Chances that Joe said a word to get Hunter the job are tiny, which is good. The bad is that Joe didn’t have to say a word or lift a finger for the Ukrainian company to get exactly what they bargained for in hiring his son.
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Having a rich, famous, or powerful parent must suck. I wonder what it’s like to have people just give you stuff because they might get invited to Christmas dinner to meet your famous parent or tell your company’s clients that they met the kid’s famous parent.
Oh well, not a world I’ll ever live in, this world that’s been happening as long as forever.
Yeah this is absolutely how it works. If you ask anyone for explicit quid pro quo they say ‘why I never’ and walk out/refuse… but if you just do them a favor without ever asking they’ll generally scratch your back. And people like Biden are very reliable about this because that’s how they get everyone in their entire universe to do nice stuff for them without being asked. Reciprocity without the words to incriminate anyone. On this forum when we say soft corruption this is what we mean.
Do you realize that you said “It’s NOT a conspiracy that he [sleepy Joe Biden] used the power of his office to get his son a seat…” You are asserting that Joe Biden directly used/abused his office to get his son a job, so cite some evidence for that or retract the claim. It is not the same thing that his son got a job he may not have deserved because his dad was Vice President and while that may or may not be swampy corrupt indirect nepotism, it’s not the same claim that you emphatically made.
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That, and in this specific case Joe could be the world’s biggest angel (he is not obvi) and the Ukrainian company would still gladly hire Hunter. They don’t need Joe’s involvement to benefit from being associated with him.
Yup. To be clear Hunter is probably being much more shady here than his dad is… but his dad decided not to nip his son trading on his name in the bud. It’s possible that all the influence Hunter sold over the years was just an air bluff with nothing behind it, but his first job out of college was with his dad’s biggest campaign donor and he made senior VP in like 2-3 years or something. That’s an example of payback from a donor for services rendered without explicit quid pro quo. You do nice stuff for them and then when your kid applies for a job there he not only gets hired but gets advanced way faster than would be humanly possible otherwise… while he’s suffering from a drug/alcohol problem so serious he has to acknowledge it publicly later.
Nobody had to actually talk about any of this, but it’s pretty obvious that company was paying Joe for the bankruptcy bill or some other favor he did for them more directly, probably without being asked directly for it.
I don’t give a fuck about the legality of any of this by the way. It’s a huge problem, drives inequality, makes the system massively less fair, and causes huge amounts of harm to the public… and the only way to stop it is to make stuff like this illegal or report on it widely and make it socially unacceptable.
Making it socially unacceptable is probably the only way to stop it. I can’t even think of a way a law capable of stopping it would be constitutional.
grunching the last 50 posts but Tulsi is sooo antiwar that she wants us to be kind and work with people like George fucking Bush LOL
At :30 she claims Mueller “[found] that the President of the United States did not conspire with the Russia to interfere in our elections…” That’s a lie and a GOP/Pravda talking point. You should not support her lying to you.
I’m going to sound like @nunnehi here, but did you even read any of the report or the coverage of it? Like, I didn’t even have to read the full report (sorry nunn) to see and understand that there was clear collusion between Trump and Russians. The problem was defining Russians as the Russian government. In many cases, the connections were obvious but not legally provable. This is because Putin doesn’t have his own officials doing the dirty work, he has oligarchs doing it and then connecting back with the government officials… So there’s an extra degree of separation.
That’s basically what prevented Mueller from legally concluding that there was provable collusion between Trump and the Russian government. Notice you won’t see him saying there wasn’t anything found between Trump and Russians.
Anyone in Congress (Tulsi) who is ignoring that is at best stupid and at worst carrying water for Trump, Russia, etc.
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