Democratic Primaries 2020 - With a whimper

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Got “pretty close” on most. Underestimated the percentage who support free college. Overestimated the percentage who support decriminalisation of border crossings (although I knew it would be low, I still guessed too high).

The decriminalization of border crossings might actually be an important policy difference. It’s not that Democratic voters are too anti-socialist for Bernie, it’s that they’re too xenophobic.

Yeah, sadly if bernie had specifically run on the socialism for “real americans” dogwhistle he might have pulled it out.

Not sure how long you have been here under other names or whatever but believe me there’s a bunch of us who’d already be gone if the “leave” option was viable.

No doubt that’s part of it, but it could come down to how the poll is worded. “Medicare for all” polls significantly better than “A national health insurance program for all Americans that replaces private health insurance”, which is the wording 538 mentions. Bet you anything you like a large number of people hear “decriminalise border crossings” and think “open borders”.

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Unfortunately I don’t think it would have mattered. There are still too many living boomers who equate “socialism” with gulags and secret police and shirt.gov and the Dems still can’t message for shit.

Not just Democratic voters.

If Trump every figures out how much a message of “Build The Wall and Medicare For All” would play, he would absolutely crush Biden.

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And they’d freak about about “open borders” because they’re xenophobic.

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Yep. A lot of talk about James Comey and media mentions and all kinds of secondary factors, but a huge majority of Republicans, a strong majority of Independents, and probably a majority of Democrats don’t want to hear “press 2 for Spanish” and that’s why Trump is POTUS.

@BestOf

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Cool story bro. Let me guess though, a best friend of yours was never homeless when they were 19 years old, right?

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I know it won’t happen but it does seem like bernie is the obvious choice if biden has to step down. He’s the only candidate that’s actually popular and has a solid base.

For all the, “DemE needs to consolidate behind one candidate,” takes earlier in the primary, you have to admit that none of those candidates were actually any good, right? Like if you could snap your fingers and make anyone the dem presumptive nominee, who would it be? Warren? Pete? lol

Is a wall too big of a price to pay for M4A? Seems like a reasonable trade.

@microbet don’t encourage me

lol nah encourage the fuck out of me

I can dig it, socialism but limited to, like, nationalities that embody the spirit of this great nation.

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If that was actually on the table, absolutely snap take it.

Note: This is not the same as suggesting to vote Trump>Biden if Trump actually started campaigning on this.

Yes. Live free or die.

Windmill slam snap accept. The wall is just a monument to racism that would eventually be destroyed. M4A would be here for good.

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The physical wall would have minimal impact on boarder crossing imo, and would be beautifully cathartic to detonate