Isn’t rooting for unrest more my sort of thing? I’m just more honest about what unrest looks like.
All I really ask is that people make an informed choice. If they want to weigh things differently and come up with a difference choice than me, then so be it. I can respect someone not wanting to vote for Biden because I can see the math behind it. I’ll probably end up voting for it, but there are things he can do that can piss me off enough that I might refrain. Saying that I have to vote for Biden no matter what because the alternative is worse is like saying I have to support Israel no matter what because they are the only real democracy in the region and the alternative is worse.
From the perspective of some, it feels like you’re telling a battered woman to stay with her husband because at least that’s better than being hungry and homeless. Is our democracy so great if it allows something like Donald Trump to happen?
Ultimately, Biden is completely unappealing to people who see elections in terms of anti-establishmentarianism vs the status quo. I don’t know if there is a good argument that can appeal to those who have no desire to return to the before time, the long long ago when Obama was president and Trump was just a game show host.
There were definitely a bunch of scenarios where I would have bitten the billet again but blatant rigging to make the senile rapist the candidate crosses the line. Should be happy I don’t take this senile bastard literally on who to vote for, because he already told me
It’s hilarious how a dude who openly admits that the primary was fixed by the establishment thinks we should be support justice dems for non-fixed city counsel elections.
Yes, imo a second Trump term means a third Temp term, and beyond. Maybe it’ll be him, maybe Don Jr, maybe Ivanka, but we’ll be full Trumpistan if he wins four more years to keep taking us down the fascist road.
They didn’t rig the votes, they tipped the scale. It’s easier to beat them from the ground up and/or catch them when they aren’t looking. AOC doesn’t beat Crowley if he knows she’s drawing live a month in advance. So we can win that way…
Or in smaller races. City council races are less susceptible to establishment scale-tipping. If grassroots candidates are well funded, they have a shot. You need 15-20K votes to win a city council primary in a big city. There aren’t a million ads, it’s doable with elbow grease and good use of the Internet.
Win those and start building a better party from the ground up.
Yeah what I’m saying is if we lose the EC but win the popular vote, the margin matters. There’s a tipping point where it leads to something. I dont know if the tipping point is 5M or 10M or 20M, so running up the score regardless is important.
I mentioned it in the other thread: HRC was the first time I, in Illinois, voted a major party in the presidential and I was happy and excited to do so despite being a Berniebro/quasi-anti-electoralist. We get the argument, we just don’t think it applies here. I even think it’s the opposite; in 2016 it was about humiliating the GOP and moving the country left but in 2020 it would be enabling the travesty that was the Dem primary. I’m strongly advising anybody in a locked state to definitely, definitely not vote Joe.
I’ve never thought of myself as someone who embraces chaos for the sake of chaos, but I do sometimes propose embracing variance for pragmatic reasons. I never really advocated for violence, but I did point out occasionally when violence was pragmatic.
And, technically, I voted for Bernie in the primaries this year.
Popular vote total is basically irrelevant and it’s weird to see people try to argue otherwise.
If you live in a big blue state your vote doesn’t matter and it’s just mental masturbation to try to find reasons why you should or shouldn’t vote for Biden.
I think Trump spending term two as the most laughable lame duck of all time (if his heart doesn’t burst before them) is much more likely than your scenario