Democratic Primaries 2020 - With a whimper

Bernie Bros is a real thing, sorry if that pisses you off. I volunteered for Bernie, donated to Bernie and voted for Bernie. Will Menaker and Victor aren’t helping the cause. If they’re all so fucking smart why were they universally laughing at Grandpa Joe right up to the moment he kicked their ass?

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I’ve just objectively proven it’s a myth, sorry if you can’t handle that. You know as well as I do what happened right before Super Tuesday. As for helping the cause, Biden isn’t the cause. Fucking Sanders isn’t the cause; Sanders endorsed Biden.

The-Donkeys

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Maybe they should have seen the inevitable consolidation coming and reached out to other candidates before Super Tuesday. A core competence in politics is coalition building.

Nah, better to do nothing and yell “rigged.”

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Bernie sucked as a politician no argument here. Not voting for Biden cuz he’s a rapist and won’t change anything.

Maybe he’s a rapist, maybe he’s not. More likely he is not, less than a handful of people know for sure just like almost everyone else on Earth. The opponent is a serial rapist and remember you’re not voting for rape

Maybe who should have done that? Will Menaker and Katie Halper? You’re really coming across as having a conclusion in search of a narrative here.

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You of all people should understand that people get to whine online.

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yup. no one is currently laughing at Biden after his resounding victory over the Bros, mostly due to his own personal fortitude and skill

and the things that Biden was being laughed at for pre victory are in no way becoming weaknesses in the general

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Wtf man, was really hoping you were sarcastic, you do a lot of good posting here and rune every once in a while you drop shit like this

Hmm let’s look at this objective proof.

Loooooool. Did you actually think this was convincing evidence or are you being a disingenuous troll as always?

I thought the bros were just a subset of followers. Probably 2% or so of all Bernie supporters.

If people want to vote for Biden because they believe he is better than Trump, I respect their choice. However to call Tara Reade a liar and smear her despite the corroborating evidence that exists shows that their opinion on the MeToo movement is performative and does a disservice to victims of assault. I cannot say with certainty what happened, but from what I know from her case and sexual assault in general, it would lead me to believe her story. If you think Biden is guilty and choose him over the other rapist, it’s a logical calculation (and disgusting that this is the choice we were given). To dismiss her accusation based on the information presented is gross from people claiming to care about this issue.

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Is this what’s intended by the term? If so what is the point of the insanely disproportionate amount of time the now-is-not-the-time-for-justice liberals spend talking about this subset?

My impression has been that the “bernie bro” thing is just a typical astroturf smear, the eDem benghazi. They started it so early and in such a concerted way that I’m baffled by how many otherwise intelligent people seem to breathlessly focus on it (especially on 2p2). I can only assume it’s because they want to to “win” whatever battle they think they’re fighting rather than it being any kind of legitimate concern about anyone’s behavior.

Now we’ve got to the depressingly predictable point where any remotey principled stand on actual policy issues that leads to criticism of Biden is being lumped under the “bernie bro” banner. This is such a nakedly toxic suppression tactic that the term is just a heuristic for the person using it at this point.

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I mean, there’s an underlying thesis being promoted that hard left upper middle class white guys (who are also misogynistic racists I think?) is a discrete demographic large enough to dominate the political conversation. This subset is somehow so uniquely disruptive that we have to point it out as a qualifier before discussing anything at all.

You literally can’t talk about whether Joe Biden raped someone without it being framed around yeah but look how annoying this group of people are. Which is just an intentional reincarnation of how they always win.

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Well the ball’s in your court, champ. So far I’ve got polling data and you’ve got ‘Lol’.

I mean, weirdly, most people involved in this thread at the moment are all kind of correct in their own way (imo); they’re just all defining terms a little differently and focusing on different aspects. I agree that the BernieBro tag is tossed around too lightly and broadly.

But on the other hand, the reality of what you hear from those Chapo-type vitriolic and very-online cats is hard to ignore. And when you’re getting hectored to #believeWomen by the same cohort that gleefully transmogrified a credible female into a snake and had no issue with immediately #notbelieving her when she related a private conversation with Bernie, it can be frustrating. It should be ignored, because it’s a minority of Bernie’s supporters, but it’s hard. And all of that comes tied up with the fact that those same follks don’t really seem to have an issue with allowing an admitted sexual assaulter win reelection so long as it keeps the power away from creepy Joe Biden or Copala Harris or #GOPete or SnakeEmoji or CorporateBooker or whatever.

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See I think stretching #believeWomen to cover this scenario is more disingenuous than what’s being described here. This is was a political attack in the context of the debates about a private conversation which seems to fly in the face of everything anyone knows about Bernie. It didn’t seem credible at all and it was clearly coordinated between the dnc, cnn etc. By this logic in order to be consistent we should believe Palin, or Laura Ingraham.

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Riverman is Simpliticus with a slightly better schtick. Both should feel shame about their recent work itt.

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This is the privilege people itt are talking about. “Won’t change anything” when we are comparing a Trump and a Biden Presidency is serious LOLWTFBBQ territory. Like, the only way in which that is even remotely true is if your minimum threshold for change is enacting single-payer Healthcare and, like, ending corporate personhood. It completely ignores, as just one example, the last 5 months of the bananna-republic-level of corruption and incompetence on display with the Trump administration’s handling of the COVID pandemic. It’s not even that you’re shrugging off the tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths, you’re so privileged and, I guess ignorant about all the things that the President does?, you can’t even recognize all the ways in which Trump’s corrupt incompetence is seriously fucking up our country and devastating the lives of millions of people BEYOND what eDem governance has done. Jesus fucking Christ, unplug from rose-Twitter for like a week and get some perspective.

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