Democratic Primaries 2020 - With a whimper

I’m pulling for Whitmer. She’s a dual threat: popular swing state governor who is irrationally despised by MAGA chuds.

Did you think she wasn’t a citizen?

Centrist Dems sure do love military veterans. Tammy would be okay, I guess. Better than Kamala or Klob.

I only knew she was born in Thailand, I think I confused her background with Ted Lieu, who was born in Taiwan.

Duckworth is the only pol I have given money to, maybe 10 years ago for a failed House run. She called me later for a fundraising call. Didn’t get any more.

This woman was a poor and asked people for money and didn’t pay her bills on time. Everyone knows poor people can’t be raped.

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I hate Joe Biden and think he’s a creep. I do not think the rape accusation is credible.

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Why? What do you possibly know that would lead you to believe this?

This makes no sense, the left I’m the sense that you all mean hasn’t voted for the Democratic in my lifetime, except maybe for Obama? Wtf is he talking about?

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This is a really disgusting article. Like, they found a bunch of her old landlords who say she was poor and late on rent, and who say that she would frame working for Biden as the high point of her career. Which - yes? It probably was? One of them was a landlord who sold their property and asked Reade to move. She said she’d need to be paid to move. THE HORROR of a tenant not upending their life to make it easier for their landlords to cash in.

Does politico think that sexual assault victims generally talk about their assault with their landlords 20 years later? It’s just a naked smear piece.

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I’m also interested to hear why you don’t believe this, and what your explanation is for the people who claim she told them about this in the 90’s and the court filings from her ex husband that reference it.

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I mean I don’t find this woman particularly credible, but that doesn’t really matter. Biden sucks a whole lot either way.

TBH ‘believe women’ is a good overall policy, but it’s pretty obviously exploitable as fuck. There’s no doubt in my mind that Katie Hill and Al Franken would still be in office if they were Republicans… and I’m not even close to certain that running them out of town on a rail was a good strategic choice.

One thing I see coming with the death of privacy is that we’re going to get a lot of dirt on a lot of people. One expectation that we’re going to have to let go of is that public figures have never engaged in any regrettable behavior… that simply eliminates too many people, and it comes from a time when you generally had to do something REALLY unfortunate to be outed.

Think about the stuff Gen Z has posted on the internet. Are we really going to say that someone can’t be a politician if they never posted something regrettable? I’ve posted my share of regrettable takes on the internet over the last decade or so. I guess I’m not ready to launch too many rocks from the deck of my glass house.

Obviously having sexually assaulted someone is a bridge too far ldo. Having had an inappropriate consensual relationship on the other hand is something else, as is making someone extremely uncomfortable like Franken did.

Unfortunately we do live in a world where we’ve caught right wing operatives trying to fabricate all kinds of allegations against our political candidates, so we can’t just automatically ‘believe all women’ when allegations get lobbed at our candidates, no matter how much we don’t like them.

also in the real world, i find myself unable to give too much credit to the accused when he’s touched children weirdly on camera several times

plus he hired Harvey Weinstein’s spin doctor

My theory on Franken is that the congressional aide who said that Franken tried to enforce his “right as an entertainer” is someone who is known to the at least some of the Senators who were the first to call for Franken to resign, that they believed specifically this woman and maybe Franken would not have been forced out if they didn’t feel a personal stake in what was going on. They signaled that they were going to go to bat for this woman in any hearings.

Katie Hill was about to be investigated for whether she was having sexual relations with a male staffer, something that was against House rules. Her tawdry three-way relationship that made headlines was a different animal. My inclination is to suspect that she cited the latter in resigning as cover to prevent details of the former from coming out.

And I’m saying that neither of those events, even read in the worst possible light, should probably be grounds to end a promising political career. People are imperfect creatures, and as more and more of what we’ve all collectively done becomes public we’re going to have to accept more and more tawdry stuff on our public figures.

Mark my words Katie Hill won’t be the last legislator of either gender to have nudes and or a full blown sex tape leaked. I don’t agree that ‘has never allowed a photograph to be taken of them naked’ is a required qualification to be an elected official in 2020. I also don’t think humans are ever going to be tidy enough that we can throw them out of public life for having had sex with people they probably shouldn’t have. Shamed certainly, made fun of definitely, and if it was nonconsentual this all goes out the window… but humans are deeply deeply fallible and do stupid stuff.

No I’m not advocating for people to create #metoo situations with impunity. Pattern matters as does the dynamic of the relationship. Sexual harassment is not OK. People hooking up with people they spend a ton of time around for months at a time is different and basically unavoidable. I think jumping into bed with lobbyists is way more concerning than consensual campaign affairs.

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I’m suggesting that maybe they resigned to avoid more information coming out that would definitely have led to their resignations. In Hill’s case, maybe nude photos were just a convenient excuse.

Uhhhhhhhh

The article you just posted lmao

A number of those in close contact with Reade over the past 12 years, a period in which she went by the names Tara Reade, Tara McCabe or Alexandra McCabe, laid out a familiar pattern: Reade ingratiated herself, explained she was down on her luck and needed help, and eventually took advantage of their goodwill to extract money, skip rent payments or walk out on other bills.

This goes to credibility, counselor. Your witness.

Nice to see Tara Reade getting got. There’s also the PBS Newshour report from Friday where they did 74 interviews and mainly found support that she sucked at her job and Joe Biden was a good boss.