Democratic Primaries 2020 - Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

https://twitter.com/aishaismad/status/1246101261700775937?s=21

This is you bro. Biden is so terrible and such a clear loser that some of us haven’t given up on getting an actual president into office

Go bury your head in the sand until the convention and stop carrying water for a rapist war criminal

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i get that its definitely way easier to just forget that Bernie exists and go back to the two-party system where you don’t have to be morally responsible for dead Iraqi civilians and Latin American families in cages or people without health insurance or people on the streets

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So Wisconsin is going to just, uh, conduct a primary at the height of a global pandemic?

I’m going to get some hate for this maybe, but here’s the reason this happened today:

https://elections.wi.gov/node/6808

There’s a major supreme court race on this ballot that has major implications for the state for 10+ years.

For the past 10 days or so it has been the Republicans bitching up a storm about needing to delay the election, because Milwaukee and Madison had a 3 week head start on early voting and were open for absentee votes when many conservative leaning areas of the state were not open for early voting, or had extremely limited hours or even only by appointment. The dems have been strongly advocating to push forward with the election. One suggestion as a “compromise” was to push it back to the same day that the governor scheduled a special election for the congressional seat being vacated by Sean Duffy, but that’s a contest race in a HEAVY republican district, so that was shot down immediately.

The early voting totals in Milwaukee and Madison have been extremely disappointing, so it has been a complete about face from both parties. Dems now say no way we can hold this election on Tuesday and Republicans are saying hey don’t worry it’ll be fine.

Obviously the asshole in this situation depends on which team you’re on. But I promise you that if Dane and Milwaukee county numbers were higher that we’d still be voting on Tuesday, albeit at more than 5 polling locations. They can absolutely scrounge up more volunteers if need be. We’re less than 2 months from a scheduled hosting of the DNC convention. There’s enough bodies. They’re understandably scared though that so many people will stay home, and right now the early voting map just doesn’t look good.

Maybe I’m just being cynical.

Can’t they just make a bunch of ads using footage of 2012 Joe Biden?

You’re not reading carefully; I said that I don’t want to purity you et al because it’d be ridiculous. See below.

If you don’t acknowledge that there are others not doing it then you are inadvertently saying get over it, but as I said making this point of contention a purity test is ridiculous because the main difference is having children. It’s a lot harder to go full Fight Club when raising some kids!

What’s Bernie’s path to taking the delegate lead?

winning elections when people realize they need healthcare

alternatively shut da fuck up

Oh OK, so Bernie just needs low info dipshit voters to suddenly stop being low info dipshits, ez game.

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i didn’t say it would be easy but it would be a lot easier if warren lickers like yourself held her accountable

I hopped off the Warren train when she decided to switch her M4A plan to something dumb as fuck but by all means continue being a toxic jackass.

I don’t even know if that would be enough any more. I mean, the primary elections, to the extent that they happen, are reall not likely to be platforms for sudden swells of support.

Like, without wishing death/pain, I actually hope something happens to Biden that causes him not to be the nominee, and at this point I hope that the alternative is Bernie. But I think most prognisticators are counting on a Trump v Biden election, so shouldn’t we have that thread?

And as I typed that, I realized that the obv response is “so go make it” which is fair but it’s late here, so I guess maybe next time

sorry, i mistook you for @olink, a similarly named do-nothing warren defender

bernie has no path is not true , its just your wishcasting. i never said it would be easy, only that people who want to bury their head in the sand at this point are uninformed clowns that just want an excuse to stop fighting for issues that will save lives

wat in god

Lol you’re confusing me for someone else too

Bernie’s path is Biden dying of COVID-19. At this point, he needs some sort of harm to come to Biden, if not physically, then at least politically, so that the establishment no longer views him as a likely winner against Trump. And I still maintain that almost any credible non-Hillary that Democrats stick against Trump should be considered a favorite to win.

Any shot that Bernie has at winning that doesn’t involve Biden dying or becoming medically incapacitated is not going to involve fighting on the issues. It’s going to involve attacking Biden personally in an attempt to make him un-electable. I’m not convinced that Bernie is going to participate or authorize that sort of campaign.

If you had some campaign to send a bunch of super-spreaders to enter the bunker where Biden is staying and cough on him, then I would tell you where he is if I knew. If I thought that massive COVID-19 fatalities would lead to a much better outcome than President Biden, I would root for the death counts to rise.

I just don’t see Bernie having much of a shot, so I think that best outcome involves pushing Biden to pick as progressive of a running mate as possible. I want him to keep running because I think that maximizes the pressure on Biden to move leftward on a vice-presidential nominee.

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I think Bernie’s most likely path to the nomination is to do exactly what he’s doing: stay on message and in the race. If and when Biden implodes, physically or otherwise, Bernie will be in a much better position as a) the only remaining candidate, with the most delegates and b) a guy who played relatively nice and didn’t unnecessarily further antagonize the establishment. If he goes nuclear now, he just guarantees that the party will never nominate him, ever.

To provide some context for these numbers, four days before the 2019 April primary, 69% of absentee ballots had been returned and 84% by election day. For the 2018 November general election, that was 92% and 95%. Four days before the current April election, only 48% of absentee ballots have been returned.

This is a troubling statistic. While I agree with U.S. District Judge William Conley that it is the place of the governor and legislature to work on moving the date of the election, I applaud his attempt to mitigate the absentee ballot problem by extending the deadline for submitting and ordering the state to waive the requirement to have a witness sign the ballot.

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1246102085428486144?s=19

Biden bots and Liz louts are going to have to pretend they aren’t furious about this

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Took me three tries and then finally continuing to the next line to understand you weren’t referencing Admiral Law of the Chez