Democratic Primaries 2020 - Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

That thread was a good read :+1:

https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1235747760311320576

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I’m glad I know that dude is full of shit, exaggerating or outright lying, because he accidentally did make the argument that southern black voters are dumb as shit.

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Explain?

Ya I’m going to go with that thread is coming awfully close to the Republican hypothesis on why black voters are heavily Dem.

Yeah dog, every one of those sharp black folks has access to the internet and the brainpower to understand politics on a national level, the connection between local and national levels, and political history, but they’re all gonna be parody come to life and blindly vote for the blank D.

That post I posted while you were posting (heh) explains a little, but, explain which part? That particular dude’s history, or his thread?

The Bernie campaign was able to reach out and break through to Hispanics like no other campaign ever has with their message of working class solidarity but they were like ah fuck it, the black community is not for us.

It’s cool that they weren’t feeling him and thought Bernie was wacky or whatever but I don’t believe for a second that there was some deep wisdom in it, black people can be low info just like the vast majority of us are for the vast majority of our life. They know Joe as Obama’s VP, that’s as good a reason as 95% of the population will have for their vote.

I just wanted you to go into more detail about your perspective :+1:

Your last post did some of that, but yes I would also like to hear what you are thinking about the dude’s history and that thread in particular if you have further thoughts.

https://twitter.com/nationalparke/status/1236031139623690240

https://twitter.com/redzupp/status/1236038662216957959

https://twitter.com/redzupp/status/1236041251398524929

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Thanks for your insight. Interesting to read the opinions of people closer to the action than just your typical passive supporter.

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These super complicated wise black narratives are really irritating. Here is my fake wise black person narrative that makes infinitely more sense:

Donald Trump is destroying the legacy of the first black President and we don’t want to follow that up by trying to burn everything down with the Revolution. We want to put in Biden, a link to Obama’s Presidency, to restore and build upon Barack’s legacy.

I mean, I don’t see room in these offered narratives for rolling the dice on Barack Hussein Obama in the first place.

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https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1236030416030662658

its over

https://twitter.com/GoAngelo/status/1235732416159010816?s=19

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Age matters a lot also. Median hispanic dem is the youngest of all races. Median black dem is the oldest of all races. Ultimately, Bernie’s big strategic mistake imo was not running a campaign that could beat candidates heads up. He would be a massive favorite if there were at least 4 viable candidates right now and looking pretty good if there were just 3. But by not stressing unity and instead going the exact opposite way (taking on the democratic party itself) he made it very easy for people who consider themselves staunch democrats to go with the other guy when it got heads up. With all the money he raised, it might have been better for him if his supporters gave like 10% of their total to Booker and Harris. If one of those 2 made it to South Carolina and Super Tuesday he probably does way better. He was kind of like an NFL team going into the last week that needed to win plus a few other teams to lose to make the playoffs. I wish his campaign tried harder to win outright, rather than just because of a divided electorate.

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This dude’s argument doesn’t make too much sense like most of the other theories that have been floated recently. African-Americans are dependent on the party and they also don’t trust Joe (a known segregationist!) to go to bat for them because he never has. Bernie was doing desegregation protests and marching with African-Americans when he entered politics and was arrested and handcuffed with a young black protester decades ago, and the black voters are fully aware of this history. Therefore, their choice for president is [checks notes] Joe Biden because they’d rather have the guy who pushed segregationist policies with the official (D) trademark lead the party they’re reliant on.

But wait, they could have voted for any of the candidates with the establishment (D) next to their names and there’s no indication they were ever willing to do that based on polling that predated ST dropouts. African-Americans were specifically for Joe Biden in all of the polls, even when other establishment Dems were still in long before ST.

Best explanation I’ve heard is that AA voters in the South are being pragmatic and they see Joe as the most likely to beat Trump instead of the socialist guy.

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Oh for sure. The Obama people got a bit too high on their cutisie wonk supply and the end result is loading up a lot of politically unpopular costs on the end user

And why’d they think the guy clearly suffering from dementia would do better than the other non-socialist options?

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worth a read

Cliffs: Warren boycotting Fox cost them millions

Same reasons that huge swaths of the Dem party as a whole do. He polls well against Trump, he’s got experience, everyone else is sort of a clown, etc. I obv don’t agree, but it’s a position a lot of voters have staked out.

If you’re a casual 60-something centrist Dem who doesn’t think America is “ready” for a woman/gay/socialist president then you either get behind Biden or some weird fourth-tied guy like Bennett or whatever.