Because he has a better chance of winning.
Also, if you do want these things, why would you vote fore more milquetoast neoliberalism. Bernie won’t get his entire ajenda through, nobody ever has. But he won’t be another neoliberal shill. And he’s the most electable in the general. So for me that’s 2 good reasons.
Umm, holy shit at this California poll. Is this reputable?
538 says pollster is online only and grades it a C. For all Nate’s bad takes I think their core analytical work is probably still sound. So maybe? IDK, online crowd may bias more Bernie than the electorate as a whole. IMO we’re in huge if true but no ronpaulgif territory.
I have a hard time seeing us build that movement to get 60 senators without passing some progressive legislation to show those yokels in tiny red states how much it’ll actually benefit them.
I kinda like the idea of running socially conservative economicaly progressives in those states. Problem is you will still need dem voters to elect them and I can’t see many dems voting for someone who supports overturning Roe v Wade.
My hope is that economic progression is more popular than social liberalism is unpopular. I want a big tent of supporters, but don’t think the movement itself / politicians themselves should stoop to the level of “abortion good, transgender bad” to get there (hyperbole but only a bit). We’ve seen how social conservatism can lead to support of Republican economics through conduits like “welfare queens” etc, and I want that shit to die out. If politicians don’t want to make social liberalism a campaign talking point, fine I guess, do what you have to do. But it better be a part of the broader movement and I don’t want any politicians on “our side” opposing it.
■■■■■■■ isn’t a maniac, he’s not door-knocking for Bernie and cussing people out. Let’s all just relax for a moment.
Likewise, if ■■■■■■■ was a maniac it wouldn’t make me go apathetic.
“Whelp, Vic got himself a brain worm, let’s call the whole thing off. No more socialism for me. Not even a side order of social democracy or progressive liberalism, no thank you, sir.”
That whole business is eerily close to the deplorables saying they were called racist and therefore had to vote for the orange cube of fat (that’s just logic, folks!).
Because here’s the thing: We’re not actually gonna sway anybody. What we are gonna do is help people discover their inner progressive/radical leftist. There are swaths of people who feel strongly about issues but due to political apathy and/or ignorance (in the acquired knowledge sense) haven’t connected the dots. You ask them, do you feel strongly about x, y, and z? Yes? Ok, you’re on the left, welcome aboard. There are snacks and drinks in the back and there is definitely a candidate or two you’ll love.
This post isn’t thematically tight but two things, basically:
■■■■■■■ being mad isn’t the problem. The problem is not enough people being mad enough for long enough. It’s been how many years since the financial crisis? The land of milk and honey has been in the rearview for awhile and people are mad as fuck now.
Sure, but making that the issue cedes too much ground already. This is the issue Republicans want to talk about – whatever side you come down on, the more you talk about it the more you lose. It’s not like they cared about it when they started harping on about it in the 70s, abortion was a wedge issue intended to split religious people off the left. And it worked.
You want to win elections, shift the conversation to a wedge issue that will split a big enough cohort from the right. Doesn’t need to be the same ones who are one issue abortion voters.
Kushbomb liked one of my tweets 
Since this has come up a few times and I think I’m in general disagreement with some on this board, I started up a new thread to discuss.
https://mobile.twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1222684242364289030
JB… I was in the Top half of my Class
Actual ranking? 76th out of 85
Bonus… JB "I was the 1st to be granted a full scholarship in my family
The truth… He had a half scholarship
Victimised by the truth 
is so good.
Thanks Obama… This dude is more like Boris and Donald then any actual Dem candidate.
What does it say about us that Joe Biden was able to rise to the level of VP.
Everyone should watch this whole thing. As if I needed new reasons to loathe him.
Maybe that the person 2nd in line for the Presidency should be directly elected or maybe a temp position and a special election called if POTUS dies or impeached instead of someone picked just to try to balance a ticket or something.
Victor,
The point is don’t try to gatekeepe me, and people like me, out of the progressive movement and call me an establishment shill when I’ve been a part of this movement much longer than you have. When you were flat out wrong about the 2016 race and I was right. When Bernie 2020 doesn’t exist if it isn’t for people like me supporting and helping to push his candidacy forward in 2016.
I will be ecstatic the day Bernie is named the Dem nominee in 2020. This can be true while simultaneously believing that Warren would be a better nominee and better President in 2020. It’s what I’ve been trying to tell you all along. We’re on the same damn team and you telling people who are on the same team as you to fuck off and calling them establishment shills makes you look unhinged and ignorant.
I’m in Iowa, so I will be caucusing for Warren because I think it’s stupid to not vote who you believe in before any votes are counted. We’ve seen polling be way off in Iowa before. If I was in a Super Tuesday State and Bernie beats Warren by a large margin in the early States, I’d be voting for Bernie and telling other Warren supporters to do the same thing.
And after thinking about it some more Donald was able to rise to President. WAAF
I’m reading “stillness is the key” by Ryan Holliday and one of his chapters talks about JFK.
A flawed human but an actual deep thinker who contemplated things.
I can’t imagine trump dealing with nukes being shipped to Cuba.
The ignorance in this post is astounding. Here’s a hint: progressivism is not a synonym for socialism. What’s even more ridiculous is that in the sense Bernie has long tried to blur the distinction between the terms, he’s done it by co-opting the socialist label to describe what is more accurately progressive capitalism. You would gatekeep Bernie out of his own movement if you actually judged policy stances over personality.
Tons of people absolutely will hate someone else because of their supporters. As a long time mma fan I saw that shit all the time. A fighter would have annoying fans and lots of petty idiots would hate the fighter and cheer for his KO every fight just because of that.
Even if the fighter themselves was cool or exciting.