Democratic Primaries 2020 - Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Alicia Keys is one of my long-time celebrity crushes. She is absolutely beautiful.

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Don’t let their constituents off the hook so easily. CA and NY are socially liberal, but rich states with lots of people who don’t want taxes too much higher and have lots of investments that are protected by corporate friendly and military friendly policies. It’s why, at least within the Democratic party, places like WV were won by Bernie in 2016, but HRC won CA and NY pretty handily.

I’m sure the bland center-right veterans the DCCC would’ve put out there would have flipped all those red districts.

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I think this is a really important thing to understand. Social issues and economic issues are not the same, and in fact when you talk to specific voters you’ll extremely frequently find people who are extremely conservative on one and extremely liberal on the other.

California and NY are absolutely packed with upper class white people who are very socially liberal (although many of them are super hypocrites who have substituted race for class as is the fashion now) and very fiscally conservative. They like to give money to charity, but those charities are often things like elite universities, museums, and other elite prestige oriented stuff that gives them social clout inside their own class. These people are just fine with a socially liberal secretly fiscally conservative rep who helps keep the status quo up. The status quo is, after all, extremely good for them.

Looking to the people of CA/NY to save us because they didn’t vote for Donald Trump in the general is stupid. I’m also pretty uninterested in caring even a little about whether candidates can pass a social issues purity test. I’d rather every Democratic candidate mirrored the social policy demographics of their own district and we applied a party wide purity test on being economically left wing.

Inequality, climate change, healthcare, and our ridiculous military budget are economic issues. They have a drastically larger impact on the life of every single human being in this country than social policy does, even historically discriminated against minorities. Helping poor people is helping minorities because white privilege has created a situation where most of the people who don’t need help are white people. If that means we aren’t helping some rich minorities I can live with that to really help the people who actually need it.

There are a lot of CA-NY-etc liberals with good jobs on this board who think dunking on ‘deplorables’ from rural areas where they don’t even have high speed internet yet is acceptable. It isn’t. You want those people to vote for us? Be more like Bernie and actually help them. Otherwise shut the fuck up. They didn’t vote for Hillary because they correctly thought she didn’t give a fuck about them. She wasn’t even trying to hide it. They elected Trump because they wanted to lob a grenade at the coastal parts of this country that honestly feel like a totally different country than where they live (go to KY/TN/WV/OH and then go to NYC/LA/SF/Chicago/Austin quickly and you definitely feel like you should have crossed a border checkpoint somewhere).

Honestly the gaps between the different America’s feels so big to me right now that I strongly suspect it’d be easier to break the US into 5-6 different countries than to bring everyone back together. I’ve got hope that we can help bring the crappier parts of the country up to the level of the nicer parts (and in the process convert the local population to the modern American culture) before it’s too late, but that hope honestly fades a little every day… and a lot of the people in the nicer parts absolutely aren’t helping.

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Nahh dunking on racists is always fine

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https://mobile.twitter.com/shaunking/status/1222151316404953088

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https://twitter.com/SimonNarode/status/1221878175539638272?s=19

I forgot about all the caucus shenanigans in IA and NV in 2016.

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Yet another NH poll with Bernie crushing. No one else over 15% in this poll. We are def drawing live at Bernie winning every delegate in NH, especially if he performs well in Iowa.

https://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2020/primary/dem/nhdem20-01.html

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Or, as per usual, you are.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1222142416192446465

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Played Guess the Neoliberal Shill, guessed Jonathan Chait. If it was NY Mag it would be a no brainer but he writes for the Intelligencier too.

Clicks link:

Chait has an always wrong career rivaling Bill Kristol. My favorite Chait story is from when he and Steven Glass were young writers with The New Republic. Chait and his wife have dinner or something with Glass, and afterwards Chait’s wife is all “stay away from Glass, he’s obviously a liar, there’s something wrong with him.” Chait: “I will make him my new best friend and hetero life partner.” In the movie of that story, Shattered Glass, they had to turn Chait into a reverse-composite character, splitting him between Chloë Sevigny’s and Melanie Lynskey’s characters. Because otherwise it was a bit much. (Shattered Glass is a terrific movie, btw, one of my favorites).

Then cheerlead the Iraq war, led the “nominate Trump because it will lead to an easy Hilldawg victory” movement, and invented the brave new journalistic standard of “unlikely but possible” in order to speculate that Trump has been a secret Putin agent since like 1974 or whatever. Promoted at every turn, of course, because of his fanatical defense of whatever establishment interest can ensure his continued sinecure at whatever hack-infested rag he currently writes for.

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Chait’s point is that they did.

I’ve always contended that we need to run more economically liberal, socially conservative candidates in red districts. I’d snap take someone who supports Medicare 4 All and a wealth tax but wants to overturn Roe v Wade over someone who is super-left on abortion and gay marriage but wants to protect hedge fund managers and is for maintaining the Obamacare status quo.

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https://twitter.com/NicoleSganga/status/1222252716761677826

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Two things:

  1. Bloomberg was in Vermont? Had no idea. Why? Bernie beat Hillary here by over 70 points in 2016. LOL at thinking he’s going to get any delegates here.

  2. Did he seriously try to handshake that dog by his upper jaw?

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Warren on Trump’s Mideast plan:

Trump’s “peace plan” is a rubber stamp for annexation and offers no chance for a real Palestinian state. Releasing a plan without negotiating with Palestinians isn’t diplomacy, it’s a sham. I will oppose unilateral annexation in any form—and reverse any policy that supports it.

A clear, measurable policy. Good on her, but I still have low expectations.

if bernie wins the nomination and you all want to bet on winning west virginia vs trump, I will probably take the other side. You guys keep calling me fos–here’s an opportunity to prove it.

https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1222258335342366721

this is joe’s biggest problem, what politician is so dumb to tell people to vote for someone else. (there is a specific spot where I wouldn’t mind this, but he’s never come close to it and this isn’t the first time he’s done it)

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Doesn’t Joe know we need to broaden the base?

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Ignore everything Biden says and only look at how he treats this person: patting him, repeatedly poking him with his finger, grabbing his jacket. That kind of behavior gets you punched in the face in other places.
This isn’t the first time Biden was terrible when confronted with a dissenting voter.

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