How close are you to them? (Both distance-wise and emotionally)
I’m in Indy - they are all in Carson City, NV. We were very close growing up and slowly drifting apart due to my mom slowing losing her mind to Newsmax. Closer to my dad which is the real reason I would go. He’s depressed and it would probably cheer him up.
I would say yes. The new guidance is you don’t need to mask, so there is really no safety threat to you.
It’s easy from the outside to say “fuck em”, but I’d probably make a good faith effort to go if it’s possible. The danger to you is very low. Any chance you could convince either/both to get the shot?
I’m not worried about the safety threat to me, I’m worried about flying and then spending 3 days with them. I don’t want to be the cause of their illness.
I almost had them convinced until the J&J fiasco.
See them if you want and don’t sweat for a second any risk to their safety. If they aren’t doing the bare minimum to protect themselves, that is on them. My humble opinion.
Edit: Also don’t feel guilty if you choose not to. If they knew your feelings vis a vis vaccination and not wanting to risk their lives and still chose not to get it, that’s a big whatever for me.
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The CDC likely took that possibility into account when issuing the guidance.
I think the main reason not to go is that is likely going to be a trigger for a bunch of anti vaxxers to go get vaccinated. Of course I have no specific knowledge in this case, but some polling shows that many hesitant-to-vaccinated transitions are being driven by family pressure.
If “I would like to come see you, but don’t feel comfortable until you are vaxxed because I’m not OK with possibly killing my parents, let me know when you’ve gotten it and I’ll come visit ASAP” might get them to take the shot, then that’s probably the optimal line.
If that’s not going to work, then you should go see them (if you want to). They’re certainly doing shit that’s way riskier than seeing one vaxxed person. Considering how they may die of covid, you should go hug your mom and hopefully some in-person communication can get reason into their thick skulls.
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If your folks are anti-vaxxers, I assume they’re also not masking and social distancing?
If so, then you’ll be just one person among many that they come into contact with.
Thanks all. After a self reflection drive back from work I realized that I actually don’t want to see them on this trip, this soon, because I’ll probably end up being pissed off the whole time. I would rather not start my Vegas vacation off with that negative bullshit. It’s their decision to not get vaccinated after numerous requests from me so I’m not sacrificing a shred of happiness for this trip for them.
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Is Reno like deplorable central? I just recently learned of two friends whose deplorable parents retired and moved to that area.
Retired deplorables are drawn to states with no income tax.
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I suppose. However, I assume most people are. For me it’s obviously not the only consideration or even the most important one, but it is significant.
not sure why they wait until retirement to move to a no income tax state. seems suboptimal.
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Before retirement your decision is driven by money earning potential, after retirement its driven by cost of living considerations.
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I met my family when they weren’t vaccinated and I don’t even live in America.
So yeah go see them.
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My MIL who is a cancer survivor, has COPD and also on oxygen refuses to get the vaccine. She asked about coming and visiting. My wife let her know that we weren’t letting anyone visit unless they are vaccinated. We have a under 2 year old kid and just think it’s best to keep her away from unvaccinated people. She got upset and then sent an email. In this email she informed me that she had covid in 2018… yes 2018 not a typo… apparently she became sick and then pneumonia after someone she worked with who was Chinese had traveled to China. She said “I CAN DO THE MATH ON THAT.” The email was full of all the conspiracies about the vaccine. She ended it with ps masks don’t work it’s scientifically proven, do the research!
I feel really bad for my wife. She doesn’t even know how to respond. It’s really sad to see how people are basically being brainwashed by Facebook.
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From a distance this one’s easy.
In a nutshell tell her she’s an idiot and stay the fuck away.
You can prolly do that in a more cordial way, I suppose…
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