Dealing with Deplorable Family and Friends

Will they let you claim that is a microaggression every time he claims to be misunderstood?

Also, point out that he is not very good at being white. If he is constantly misunderstood, then he is not adept at using the King’s English. He’s using curse words, so that’s not very polite. And he seems to be showing emotion, specifically anger. Ask him to be whiter in his communication on his next post.

Checkmate Libtards. It’s all a media conspiracy and not a shitty photoshop job.

I can tell how my mother’s feeling when she doesn’t post anything politically driven for some time. The week after George Floyd was murdered, she posted literally nothing on Facebook. After that, not a day went by without some blue lives or all lives matter stuff until now. She’s now gone another week without posting anything political.

She’s definitely dealing with some conflict regarding what she thinks politically. To her, things are that supposed to be working regarding covid aren’t working and she can’t quite understand why. I mean the guy who’s supposed to be a savior is failing and she can’t quite rationalize it away or place the blame on someone else. When that happens, she shuts down. Normally she’d be going on about how the Democrats are ruining something but her energy for it is gone. She wasn’t like this at this time in 2016. She was excited to vote for Trump. Another thing I noticed is that she hasn’t posted a pro-Trump meme in months. Pro stupid right-wing culture warrior shit, sure. Not anything about covid conspiracies that Trump trafficks in. She never bought into that bullshit.

I really believe that Trump’s shedding even some of the core supporters he had. My mother has happily voted Republican since 1980. Not hearing unwavering support from her regarding a Republican president is surprising. Nearly everybody I know in America is 2 degrees away or less from somebody who got covid19 and not all of those people made it.

Not saying that my mother is going to change her vote. But if somebody who has voted GOP for 40 years can waver in their support for Trump, then others who aren’t as indoctrinated might not be unreachable.

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So on extreme conspiracy theorists, have you heard of holy spirit epistemology? It’s easy. How do you know one divine revelation from the next? Why, by the self authenticating nature of genuine divine revelations! Duh.

I think of this when people say things like this meme. How do you know which media to turst?! Just a bizarre coincidence that they happened to pick the right facts needed to see the truth instead of… wait… Could it be their truth is just another conspiracy and they’ve yet to see the real turth???

Dammit. My cousin has fallen down the QAnon rabbit hole, and I know exactly why.

He is a convicted felon and recovering heroin addict. His brother ODed a couple years ago, which woke him the fuck up and he’s been clean since. Unfortunately, no drugs means he’s gotta get that dopamine hit somehow…and conspiracy crap fits the bill. Not only is it “exciting,” he feels a sense of belonging with the other Q idiots out there.

I mean, I actually get why it’s so appealing to someone like him. I just don’t know how to deal with it, because the whole family has been on pins and needles with him to not jeopardize his sobriety. I should probably just ignore it, but he also posts about his kid that he’s trying to get visitation rights to, and other family stuff. I try hard not to reply to any of it, because we literally just started speaking again in the past year, but argh, it’s stupid.

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Today I found out my job employed a piece of shit with a swastika tattoo on his head. Shouldn’t that be auto firing?

Depends on the job.

If you work for a police department he’ll probably get a promotion next week.

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My mom, who has both right and left-wing views but definitely leans right and is strongly influenced by my Fox News-brainwashed father, stated she’s not voting this year because of all the strife that Trump has caused in our family (we had a pretty big blowup on our family group chat last month but cleared the air relatively quickly). They live in California so I guess it doesn’t matter much either way. She’s acknowledged that Trump has bigly screwed up the COVID response, can’t deny reality any longer I guess. She also posited to my wife that black people aren’t oppressed because they control the hip hop/rap industry so, not that much progress, but some!

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My mother is way less energized for Trump this year than in 2016. She’ll still vote for him since she’s #BlueLivesMatter and all that (tends to happen when you’re deceased husband was a NYPD officer) but she definitely isn’t outspoken about like in the past.

Of course she’s in New York where her vote means nothing. Plus, I continually tell her that I vote opposite her which neutralizes her vote.

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Shapiro dropping hot takes like if libs are correct then the NBA is the most racist organization in existence

Thanks for posting this.

I have someone that should be close to me that’s been sober for 5+ years and is just as you described. I’ve tried to think about it logically for years. Your explanation makes all the sense.

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If you are open to reading about it, I highly recommend this book. It might help you understand better, not just with your friend/family member, but with the country as a whole. There’s a lot in here than can explain a lot of what we’re seeing in politics now, too.

https://www.amazon.com/Elsewhere-America-Belonging-Contemporary-Interventions-ebook/dp/B01EX69KJS

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I honestly can’t fathom excommunicating an immediate family member unless the circumstances are extreme.

I am suspicious of posts that seem quick to advise doing so. I can expound on this later but just had to say something. Not a fan at all of people starting threads putting their own family members on blast. It solves nothing and plays to the identity politics that helped get us here in the first place.

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So as the OP I’ll take some ownership and say I totally agree with you that excommunication should be a last resort for people that should be your people. I’m certainly not advocating for that for small grievances like some do.

To clarify my prior posts here- I’ve posted about my mom and while I’m pretty sure she will be a Trump voter I talk to her every few days even though she lives 100s of miles from me and have the utmost respect and love for her for what she went through in life to raise me the way she did. She is a remarkable woman who I’m sure I don’t tell that to enough.

In responding to Skydiver’s post I was commenting that I couldn’t understand how someone that had seemingly turned their life around to go for something so illogical. I’ve in fact made some great strides in restoring that relationship after that person was at their absolute bottom

It’s a process. Things can be very curt in text.

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I wasn’t intending to direct it at anyone in particular tho I do think the brother thread is in bad form.

Boomers weren’t forged in the era of internet. Some of them literally never had a chance to possess the intelligence that many of us take for granted.

I heard a Ted Talk? (don’t remember which program but it was defintely NPR) where a neurologist talked about what extreme poverty does to your brain. It was very enlightening.

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LOL at believing that the average person is smarter now because of the internet.

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All the deplorable friends and family I know are well off yet their brains have still turned to mush.