Dealing with Deplorable Family and Friends

“Socialism is a completely meaningless word.”

No it’s not!!!
Have you seen US right wing media ever? I think it means something to a shit-load of dopey people in the US. And the right wingers know that.

Get ur head in the game. Repugs have their head in the game.

This for sure.

There are a shitload of really, really, really stupid people who vote in the world who are influenced by garbage. The only way really is to outnumber them at the voting booth.

And since when is bailing out airlines capitalism? LMFAO

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That’s the whole point. It means something different to everyone who uses it. Hence it’s meaningless.

I mean sure maybe it has some dictionary definition. But I’d bet a lot of money 90% of people who use the term don’t mean whatever the technical definition of socialism is. They just mean one of three things, “govt exists for the people” (ok but all non-dictatorships since feudalism exist for the people technically - some more than others), or “more social services than we have now” (for the policy wonks) or “grey communist hell” for right-wingers.

And it means something completely different to a Euro than an American. Our socialism is their common sense ldo why would you run govt any other way? It’s not socialist that’s just what govt does.

I just am not that interesting in wrapping myself in the term socialism, even though I support pretty much all its policies, because the word is so loaded and weird right now in the US. Maybe things will evolve.

Can’t we just call it something else and try to sneak it by the morons (who actually like most of the policies too) that way?

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That alone is where the right just crushes the left.

The word you’re looking for is “Progressive”.

I sometimes refer to myself as a Catholic social Democrat. I pay homage to the influence of the Catholic social justice tradition that was taught to me by Jesuits, while also choosing to identify as a partisan Democrat. I understand that this may turn off those who have a negative view of organized religion and/or the Democratic Party. Obvious, this label doesn’t work for people who come from a different background.

So, I guess what I am saying is social democracy, not democratic socialism.

I’m cool with that.

Grunching but the conclusion I’ve come to from reading those exchanges is that you spend way too much time talking to morons who will never change their minds until it’s too late.

The “do the math in LA” bit is typical of someone who doesn’t get exponential growth or that total infections >>>>>>> tested infections.

Since the Thatcher/Regan years.

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Going to buy up all the TP, then sell it for $2 a roll. Capitalism for the win.

Since the Wilson/Lloyd-George years.

In the US maybe, not in the UK.

My buddy that owns the flower farm posted this message on FB today. Needless to say he’s losing it. Oh and a giant LOL at him saying he’s not political.

I usually dont post about politics because as a business owner, I dont voice my opinion, but if me saying what I feel right now makes me lose customers or friends, I really dont give a shit.
I was just listening to the news, and one of Joe Bidens campaign managers was on saying, calling this virus Covid -19 is racist.
Are you F-ing kidding me, you sick son of a bitches that think this is racist!!
Our country is in a world of shit, and your gonna pull a race card, when everyone should be joining together!!! WTF is wrong with you people? It’s a F-ing virus that started in CHINA!!! The origin is CHINA, it’s a F-ING Chinese virus!
I get it you dont like OUR PRESIDENT. Stop your stupid bullshit, and come together and stop with the F-IING race card!
I AM NOT A RACIST, and If you wanna call me a racist, message me for my address, and you can say it to my face.

“I’m not a racist! Stop pointing out racism! It’s the Chinese!”-every MAGA in America right now.

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This is why Trump will win again… easily… no seriously… Trump is outflanking Dirty Ds to the left economically and meanwhile Dirty Ds are spending their energy falling for his trap of defending the government that anyone with a shred of common sense would blame for this.

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Can’t laugh hard enough at all the useful idiots bending over backwards to turn this into the China virus for Trump. The word sheep was invented the describe people this stupid. Like how fucking stupid do you have to be to go to bat for this nonsense? Being fooled into exposing yourself as a racist moron to own the libs!

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LOL I kinda want to use this quote but good lord if I did, I’d set my world on fire. But yea I agree.

Trump isn’t moving to the left of the Democrats intentionally. He’s just button-mashing.

The problem isn’t that Democrats are letting Trump outflank them to the left. The problem is that Democrats have always been risk-averse. They are less reluctant to go to war, but once we get stuck in a war, they tend to stay the course. They are reluctant to try new electoral strategies. Dems are MUBSy weak-tight players in the political game.

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