Dealing with Deplorable Family and Friends

Use parental controls to block Fox News.

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Yea was gonna say I just don’t bring it up with my parents and I think they know not to bring it up with me, they still have Fox News on most of the time when I go over there.

lol at even letting them have cable. i’d be fine to restrict the tv to just netflix. unfortunately there’s also youtube.

No worries here, my dad died in 1976!

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My dad is voting for the first time in his life this year at age 77. I think my sister told him to vote or not see his grandkids. He’s somehow vehemently anti trump too but uh he’s a college graduate and former engineer who doesn’t own a TV so not that surprising.

The last time I had beer with him I hit him with “do you think access to health care is a human right” and he thought for a while and said “no” so he has a ways to go :roll_eyes:

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At least one of my parents watches Fox News regularly.
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My Dad watches it but he knows it’s bullshit and I’ve got him to like 80-20 CNN-Fox. He still won’t watch MSNBC, but on the other hand last night he told me he thought the Philly police moved the cameras back so they couldn’t film them beating protesters.

So he’s definitely doing better than most Boomers. I went to war with him on Fox News a few years back, I’m convinced I got to him just in time and logic was able to seep in.

All that said he’s definitely got some law and order/authority tendencies, so I am always pushing back on those in small ways, which is why his comment last night made me really happy.

I showed him a ton of Twitter videos of cops wilding out earlier this year and it seemed to make an impact.

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My parents are former hippies who never drank the conservative koolaid. They aren’t flower children now or anything like that, as evidenced by the fact that my name isn’t Moonbeam and they never smoked weed in front of me, but they’re lefties. My mom likes to tell the story about how she was tear gassed in college while protesting Vietnam. They were full on Warren stans during the primary, and they call me every day asking if I saw whatever outrageous thing Trump did or to complain about the Trump signs they see driving through rural Ohio.

I’m a born and raised liberal. Shit, I was the one kid in the 3rd grade mock election who voted for Mondale. They’d probably rather eat their TVs than watch Fox News.

Thank god.

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Last I checked, my mother is a nightly consumer of FOX News.

She’s posting way less political shit on Facebook. Like nothing in 3 weeks. I’d say that she’s hiding it from me but she barely knows how to program the coffee maker let alone change privacy settings on Facebook

Yeah this is the Dunning-Kruger awareness that leads to the effect. Everything I am “good” at (programming, chess, bridge, poker) I am acutely aware of the vast gulf between me and a real expert. Chess is a good example. If I were writing a resume and had to describe my skill at chess I would say “expert”, because I’m in the 95th percentile at blitz on chess.com and being in the 95th percentile at something justifies calling yourself an expert. But the gulf between me and a real expert is so vast that I probably lose 99 games out of 100 to them.

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I’ve never liked the argument that it’s a human right. Not that I don’t believe it but I don’t think thats the way to appeal to a 77 yo engineer.

Do you think in an advanced and rich society that health care should be a benefit for it’s citizens is a better way to ask imo.

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The obvious follow up here is “do you ever think the government should provide something to people if it is not a right?”

If people don’t think the government should provide health care solely because its not a right, then they should be forced to go down the entire list of government spending and confirm that each and everything is a right. Other than die hard obstinate libertarians you will get to something that the person supports but agrees is not a right.

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My wife’s sister just started a party planning/travel agency business yesterday. I’m not sure if the stupidity or the callousness bothers me more. It’s especially fucked up with a sister up to her eyeballs with Covid cases in the ICU day in and day out.

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Apparently in Portland people are allowed to just come and squat in your house and quarter their Antifa troops and the police won’t help you, “Just like in South Africa”. I asked what all of the armed Oregon natives do when people just barge into their house and got stares.

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I’m not sure he’s the one who has a way to go. You stopped too early.

I don’t believe access to health care is a human right. I still support single payer systems and think that universal access is a good thing for the government to achieve.

Should health care be a human right?
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I’m not sure I understand the point of this question. It doesn’t really inform you about someone’s opinion as to whether governments should strive to provide universal health care… There are lots of ways for someone to reach that ultimate position.

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This is an interesting take on this forum. Why do you think it is not a human right? Healthcare should only be available for those lucky enough to afford it or live in a country whose govt provides it? That strikes me as very odd.

This is coming from someone who would likely be dead without the ACA. So I have a hard time understanding opinions like this.

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