I hope someone more knowledgeable than me can give you the best answer to that question. I’ve been lucky enough not to have needed to figure out exactly when would be best. Also not sure if the timeframe is accelerated with delta.
1 Like
I think the only thing to add on is that not creating a full immune response is just asking for a mutation to make the vaccine less effective. Just atrocious work in the UK.
Not as quite as desparado this side of the pond
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1436696020038127624?s=20
America’s Covid-19 death rate overtakes Britain as vaccinations falter
The United States overtook the UK yesterday in Covid-19 deaths per head of population for the first time this year.
Total deaths per million in the US rose to 1,977 after the wave fuelled by the Delta variant claimed another 1,727 lives in a day, with 80 million American adults shunning protective injections.
Cumulative deaths in the UK since the start of the pandemic were 1,973.7 per million, the first time it has been lower than in America since early November last year.
While 64.7 per cent of American adults are fully vaccinated, this compares with 80.6 per cent in the UK, where taking the vaccine is far less politicised and take-up has been much greater.
President Biden spoke yesterday of his “disappointment” at a
- Fully vaccinated people should be tested 3-5 days following a known exposure to someone with suspected or confirmed COVID-19 and wear a mask in public indoor settings for 14 days or until they receive a negative test result.
Fingers crossed for negatives for you and your mom.
7 Likes
Fuckkkkkkkkk… Hope she gets better soon brother 
2 Likes
This is a good pointer when this issue comes up:
3 Likes
Just got an announcement that one of our techs died of Covid.
Care to take a guess on his stance on vaccines?
COVID causes more myocarditis and the presentation is far more severe while vaccine associated myocarditis is basically a troponin leak, which can happen from things like playing in a soccer game to a child. Every case series I’ve seen is very mild. The case I saw was very mild. The overall balance of risk here is one way.
I’m not sure exactly what you’re responding to or where you’re quoting from.
But it doesn’t seem very compelling in light of this (from the link I posted):
Myocarditis among boys after vaccination is mild. And, in a new study in the journal of Pediatrics, people with myocarditis after vaccination fully recovered: “The hospital course is mild with quick clinical recovery and excellent short-term outcomes”.
And what long-term effects are unknowable now, but will be knowable with a few more months of data?
1 Like
These people are all the way gone. They’re never coming back.
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1437462941100646405?s=21
2 Likes
If they never come to my ER, then they never become my problem.
11 Likes
Hey it’s cool that Facebook is just letting this idiocy fester.
5 Likes
Quoting from the BBC (as ever)
I’ll try and find the link where the JCVI state they don’t like the US study on myocarditis in covid patients aged 0-17 - I guess we’re not seeing these same levels… hence the docs recommending the one jab to buy more time for better research from a country with a national health system to be conducted.
Not the link but the latest…seems the docs went against JCVI on school disruption grounds only
But as part of the review they did release some modelling which, based on assumptions on uptake of the jab and spread of the virus, suggested 30,000 infections could be prevented, which would save 110,000 days of missed face-to-face schooling - or one day for every 20 pupils.
The CMOs said, “on balance”, the benefits in reducing disruption and the harm it caused, including to mental health, provided “sufficient extra advantage” to warrant extending vaccination to healthy children in this age group.
I don’t have it in me to confirm, but that’s not an appropriate way to use observational data over RCTs which I’m guessing that’s what this is. Why does anyone get a second shot ffs. IIRC UK was all about delaying second doses until they had some issues in late spring/summer. If they include the pre-delta data in this it’s double bad.
Most importantly, not being an easy vector for disease is a pretty fucking big benefit. Suspiciously left off.
Yeah I don’t get this at all. Kids spreading the disease to their parents and grandparents seems like the #1 reason they need to be vaccinated.
So many people insisting to each other to never go to an ER, in part because they might not get ivermectin, but sometimes because they fear nurses are killing them on purpose “for the insurance money.”
I know there are concerns of community spread and mutations leading to more variants but I’m glad they’re deciding to go down with the horse paste instead of wasting legitimate medical resources.
1 Like
Still laughably false.
4 Likes
The same people terrified of hospitals because of “the insurance money” are also terrified of government health care because THE SOCIALISM. No matter what, they are the victims, natch.
1 Like
Haha no
LOOOOOOOOOOOL