COVID-19: Chapter 9 - OMGicron

Get it. You’re doing your part to keep those around you healthy and safe. If you don’t get that shot, it’s not like it’s going to Africa. It’s either going to another Canuck or in the bin.

But yeah, it’s definitely shitty how screwed over the third world is getting.

This is that rare circumstance where acting with complete selfishness also has positive externalities. Get it.

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Is it fair to say that we don’t know whether the increasing numbers of breakthrough infections in fully vaccinated folks are more a function of waning vaccine protection or increase in delta potency?

Best comment is this one:
“you can have my horse porn when you pry it from my cold, dead, horribly distended anus.”

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I’m glad I never got into to Reddit aside from the sumo subreddit.


Not sure if that’s what we’re going for, but reminded me of this lol

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Pretty much lol.

Reddit is great imo

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I think his wife just indirectly confirmed he was unvaxxed.

Speaking on my family’s experience, 5 of our 8 family members tested positive for COVID-19. Of the 3 fully vaccinated people in our family, there was one breakthrough case of COVID-19 with mild symptoms. While vaccination is a personal choice, I ask that those individuals who are eligible and able to receive the COVID-19 vaccine please consider placing their trust in the medical professionals who recommend it. These professionals, and their peers, are those whom we have also placed our trust in to care for my husband.

He is clearly not a breakthrough case with mild symptoms, which is presumably the worst that a vaccinated person in their family has endured, so he must be one of the unvaxxed. They have eight kids and, based on pictures, they seem mostly too young to get the shot.

One of the state lawmakers, Republican Rep. Shae Sortwell, called on his 10,000-plus followers on Facebook to pray for the ailing Jacque, prompting a heated response from Jacque’s brother.

Pierre Jacque said his family wasn’t giving him much information about his brother’s condition, claiming they’re “afraid I’ll spill the beans” and disclose the truth.

People found his Facebook page and are commenting on the last public post:

Jacque Andre comments

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Honestly thats a super ugly look for liberals. Even if you feel zero sympathy for him, which I don’t really either, posting shit like that in public is gross and counter productive in every way.

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So today was the first time I saw a commercial of Moscow Mitch telling people to get vaxxed

Don’t get we wrong. Still hate the guy as much as ever, still gave him the middle finger when he appeared on the screen, this was way too late, and still feel he is an responsible as anyone for turning the GOP into the complete shit show it is today.

But fuck it man at this point in this fucking pandemic I want a commercial featuring Biden and Trump together saying yeah we hate each other, but get the damn shot.

trump isn’t gonna do that again, he got booed when he said it at his own rally

Oh yeah I know I know. That was the one and only time Trump is going to be pro-vaxx since he follows the whims of his crowd.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/08/30/liberty-university-covid-virtual-quarantine/

Nice to know that the students in my school have a higher than average vaccination rate for their age group. Of course, 27% is still not particularly high (the average is around 20% for the country).

Surprisingly, a bit above half the students in the school are opting for PCR tests even though they could get an antigen test and be totally fine to get into the school.

As of right now, zero students have notified the school in advance that they will reject a covid test. However, about 15% of the students have not answered the request from the school and no students rejected the test last year.

Unfortunately, students will be taking the test and presumed negative for the day so long as they don’t show any covid symptoms. This means that they’ll be mask-free in all but common areas of the school. Only 1% of the students have confirmed to the school that they previously had covid. I wonder if many of the people who didn’t respond don’t want to acknowledge having covid.

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I saw a note of a study that predicted if top GOP officials all pushed vaccinations it might push the overall percentage up by as much as seven percent.

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What’s often overlooked is that study was limited to cells in Petri dishes. What’s more, when the NIH looked into it, the agency found that to achieve the ivermectin’s reported disruptive effects, the dose would have to be 100-times greater than what’s currently approved in humans. At those levels, the side-effects would likely be serious. The FDA has [pleaded with people]

It’s unclear when Julie contacted Dr. Fred Wagshul, but on August 20, he prescribed ivermectin for Jeffrey. Wagshul is a pulmonologist with a practice near Dayton, Ohio, and he helps run the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, a group of doctors which encourage treatment of COVID with ivermectin, fluvoxamine, famotidine, and a smorgasbord of other drugs. Some of those drugs may work in limited circumstances, but most of them appear useless against the virus. Currently, Wagshul does not appear to have any privileges at any hospitals.(Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 | FDA) not to take ivermectin for COVID.

I think the discourse on ivermectin is kind of dumb on both ends now. Labelling it an “animal dewormer” or whatever is stupid, it’s used in people as a very effective anti-parasitic. It’s also a safe drug. Like yeah if you take animal formulations or take ridiculous doses or whatever then that’s going to be bad, but that goes for any drug. If you use according to the instructions put out by the guys who are convinced it’s a COVID wonder drug, then it’s safe. I don’t care if people want to get it and use it and all this “OMG POISON CENTER CALLS ARE SKYROCKETING” stuff is a bit much.

It’s also not like there’s zero reason to think it might be helpful. Mahmud et al is a perfectly good randomized trial with n = 363, finding that ivermectin (plus doxycycline, which we know from other trials isn’t helpful) had a statistically significant effect, shortening recovery times by two days on average, and patients in the treatment arm significantly less likely to test positive on RT-PCR after 14 days. That’s it for decently-sized RCTs but there are some intriguing retrospective studies on prophylaxis, for example Behera et al and Morgenstern et al both found reductions of like 70% in risk of acquiring COVID over the study period - there are design problems like a selection bias in who chose to take the free ivermectin, but it’s also a large effect size. Even the recently-released TOGETHER trial, which was reported as showing “no effect”, showed from memory a 20% reduction in progression to severe disease; that was nowhere near statistically significant, but also not the kind of result you can confidently claim for sure shows no effect.

To be clear, I think the most likely outcome is that ivermectin is shown to not be of benefit, but I think it’s totally plausible that it’s somewhat helpful. The tenor of the media coverage, which is “look at these yokels taking horse drugs, we spoke to this expert who encourages you to laugh at them” is starting to get on my nerves. The only qualification these “experts” have is skimming the Cochrane meta-analysis, because that’s the best information out there so far, and the fact is we don’t know for sure yet that ivermectin does nothing, especially when used as a prophylactic or very early in the course of the disease. If you can afford it and take it as directed then you could argue that it’s a freeroll - the problem, obviously, is people using it as an alternative to getting vaccinated.

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Indeed. But given the isolated geographic nature of this outbreak and the fact that it’s peaking well after last summer’s (much smaller) peak, I’m still worried about what’s in store for fall.

The north fortunately has much higher vax rates. I think we’ll see a scary spike but not much rise in deaths this fall.