COVID-19: Chapter 9 - OMGicron

@Melkerson add me to the list, my test from Thursday came back positive.

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Sorry he is like that Jwax, that sucks. I was a bit too blunt, but damn thinking of the servers and all it’s just awful. Given your partner’s experience (I remember your post, have actually repeated it in conversation, didn’t associate it with a screen name until now) it is a shame he hasn’t smartened up. Hopefully he hasn’t spread it, take care.

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2 more days. Could be close, but I think the under still has the better of it at this point.

i did a rapid yesterday hoping to get out of work, negative.

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There are other cases of groups that weren’t conquered. Humans passed down their culture for a hundred thousand years or whatever before the invention of writing.

The Maya lost their writing and didn’t even realize their ancestors had built all the pyramids around them.

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You should read 1491. There’s a group in South America that built a bunch of causeways and stuff, but 200 years later lost all knowledge their ancestors built it. They were never conquered. Smallpox went ahead of the Spanish.

A similar thing probably happened with the Cochimi in Baja. Their ancestors (probably) made amazing cave paintings - some that required building 30’ of scaffolding to reach the ceiling. Baja is one of the 5 most prolific cave painting sites in the world. But some 80-90% of them were wiped out by new world diseases. By the time the Spanish arrived the Cochimi that were left had no idea who made the cave paintings and assumed it was a race of giants.

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Major +1. Then read 1493.

Xenophon found Nineveh and one other Assyrian city circa 400 BC, the fall of Nineveh and of the whole Assyrian Empire had taken place around 600 BC. Xenophon says in his writing that they were Medean cities; the Medes had occupied the area for around 50 years after the fall of Assyria and it had then fallen to the Persians. It’s speculation that Xenophon was told by the locals that they were Medean cities, we don’t actually know what his source was for that, but whoever it was, they didn’t know about the Assyrians. The Assyrians were around as a city-state perhaps as early as 2500 BC and were big-dick players from about the 14th century BC, with Nineveh probably the largest city in the world, and 200 years later everyone was like “who?”.

The Hardcore History episode on Assyria where all this is mentioned is Judgment at Nineveh, by the way.

Random Covid thought.

Is there any zombie movie or show that has the virus evolving into different variants with different zombie types or methods of infection?

If not. I reckon there will be soon.

The video games Left 4 Dead 1 & 2 and Back 4 Blood (which is basically Left 4 Dead 3 but couldn’t be called that because of copyright issues) have this, there are standard infected which are just normal zombies and then special infected who have various evolved capabilities.

Those are examples of lost technology not lost culture. Groups don’t lose their culture. It evolves. No culture is static. It’s a weird sort of nativist romanticism to argue indigenous cultures were someone pure and static. It’s bad anthropology rooted in 19th century ideas of primitiveness.

I have read that book and let’s just say I am not a fan.

https://twitter.com/DrAhmedKalebi/status/1477856961421103104

well thanks to omicron we probably don’t have to worry about whatever the hell this thing is

I never said cultures were static. And obviously they held onto some stuff like myths and the like. So I don’t really mean they lost everything about their culture. I’m just saying a 90% event you lose a lot, including apparently memory of past glory and probably a good chunk of what made up your culture.

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turkmenistan is an interesting tangent to this discussion. a nomadic pre-soviet culture and soviet repressions meant that little cultural identity survived at the point of independence. they then had to take one character and creates a whole ethos around him out of pretty much thin air.

Yeah this is a sister lineage to another highly-mutated variant also from Cameroon, found in November. That already had N501Y, a rapid spread mutation, this has also picked up E484K, an immune-evasion mutation. Variants have been found with both of those before and they weren’t able to outcompete Delta, so it’s not PANIC time, but it’s another warning shot.

Hopefully Omicron’s dominance eradicates as many of these random variants as possible, the less diversity that is out there, the less chance one of these things comes up with immune-evasion superpowers. I don’t even know if it’s possible for a lower-R variant to evade immunity well enough that it can match Omicron, but I’d very much not like to find out.

Philippines absolutely blowing up right now.

My friends office tests the staff. First day back after the break. 10 of 15 positive

Everyone all doing the rapid tests so not counting in the official stats.

Even then. The official stats have gone from 150 cases. 0.4% positive rates week ago to 4000 cases and 20% positivity rate yesterday.

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How the hell does that happen?