COVID-19: Chapter 9 - OMGicron

I appreciate Churchill posting links. We can each assign our own value on his specific commentary. (And as others can assign value to my comments or Wookiee or whoever).

Be on high alert for this one, but don’t start butchering the neighbors for extra meat. Yet.

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Folks, no need for all this back and forth. Nostradamus Nate already weighed in months ago…

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1422993942593904640?t=8ErtDuHuSmm0GQlpXeZW_Q&s=19

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Omicron has some very sound philosophy

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https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1464353224417325066?s=21

Estimates first Omicron case on October 7 +/- a few weeks.

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Gonna suck soon that the only way most people will know Greek is through covid

Still disappointed Tri Lambda isn’t a strain.

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https://twitter.com/scottgottliebmd/status/1464336804174258184?s=21

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One of the scientists in Gottlieb’s thread:
https://twitter.com/theodora_nyc/status/1463895109037178880?t=Q1e-5YyK4_6emxMK91dRmg&s=19

Yes.

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Never say never, but the milder outcomes part seems highly unlikely.

Yeah, it seems like a COVID19 strain that’s evading your immune system (as this one has the potential to do) is also going to lead to worse chances of pneumonia.

Man, I hate the term “natural immunity” so much. I’m not taking a shot a Johnny here, I just hate how it seeped into everyone’s vocabularies unchallenged. There’s nothing “unnatural” about your body’s natural immune system mounting a challenge to weird shit that’s been injected in your bloodstream. I’m pretty sure no one talked about “natural immunity” pre-2019 because it doesn’t even make sense.

Vaccination is just a way of priming your body’s natural immune defenses. Your body sees a bunch of spike proteins in your blood and it mounts a defense. Maybe those spike proteins got there because you inhaled some virus particles in the produce aisle at Kroger. Maybe they got there because someone at the Kroger pharmacy section stuck you with a needle full of mRNA that codes for spike proteins. Your body’s natural immune system doesn’t care either way. It’s all foreign junk that has to be disposed of.

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In arguments/discussions with Covid-skeptic-adjacent I always use the term previously infected instead of naturally immune.

Natural immunity is a framing that makes anti-vaxxers sound virtuous or superior. It also sounds inherently better than “vaccinated”—after all, we don’t usually say vaccinated people have “vaccine immunity.”

The right is so much better at framing discourse than the left. It’s not even fair.

Yeah there is almost no chance that if this variation is really able to be transferred is not in most countries by now. The only exceptions would be any countries who still had real stringent travel policies and enforcement.

It’s absolutely going to be everywhere in the US, if it dominates delta.

Countries need to be enacting travel
Bans for three variations in the future. Not one in the past.

Of course almost no countries will shutdown to protect its citizens from future variations. So the world will continue playing like by the time a new variant is widely known about it hasn’t spread everywhere.

Corona Cerveza disagrees.

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Haven’t followed Covid for awhile mainly because this thread turns into a shitshow way too often.

Cliffs on this new variant? Is it vax resistant? Seems like it must be bad as I saw it tanked the stock market.

We don’t know. Conjecture from the list of mutations plus early data indicates it might be immune-escaping, but it’s very early days right now.

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Doesn’t seem like travel bans really make much sense anyhow. Haven’t we moved past the “15 days to stop the spread” phase and into the “that shit just gonna come f you up no matter what” phase?