Yeah, I agree with this. I’d say that if the pregnant woman remained unvaxxed after the recommendation came out, then it’s the doc that is to blame for not giving her the update. Now if the doc did that, and the woman still refused, I think that’s still Darwin eligible*.
*Obviously depends on when she got COVID relative to when vaccine could have been received.
COVID sucks and everyone hates the situation we’re in. I try to be cognizant of that when I post about it.
a woman and her baby are dead can we not?
I’m just trying to be a neutral arbiter on the Darwin inclusion/exclusion criteria (FWIW, baby doesn’t get one).
Whether it is a depraved award to hand out is an entirely different matter and one for which I can understand arguments on both sides.
This article was from Jan 2021
“The medical community has done a good job of saying, ‘We don’t know,’ ” said Daryl Stoner, an obstetrician with Einstein Physicians Women’s Associates for HealthCare outside Philadelphia. “That drives people crazy. They want to be told it’s safe.”
Maybe there wasn’t a clear message at the beginning.?
I was wrong about how it went down. I wasn’t trying to mislead.
My bad
The whole topic is rough. Regardless of the advice given and or not accepted, this damn virus took a young mother and child and left a 2 year old motherless. Except it’s not really the virus’ fault. It is society. The virus is a non-sentient replicating Machine. People are morons that can’t and don’t do the basic things to limit the spread of this thing. All the people in her community that didn’t mask, didnt vax, didnt socially distance. And all the evil motherfuckers spreading all the lies and manipulating opinions for sport and for power.
Fair enough. No worries.
This seems like a bit of a surprising take from the most enthusiastic Darwin award giver. I’m not saying it’s wrong. Just surprising coming from you.
seriously its a mom and a baby can we seriously not?
I’m not sure how you’re interpreting that, but I wasn’t disagreeing with anything Dan said in that post. Were you?
Sometimes, you’re playing NLHE, and a player bets into you all in for 3/4 of the pot after having not previously been aggressive in the hand while out of position when a brick hit on the river. For other decisions, you’re playing LHE and have AA preflop on the button after another player has already raised after a couple limpers. As a poker player, you generally take into account a player’s history, but for some decisions, it just doesn’t matter.
This seems like such a perfect way to weed out the most deplorable and/or stupid cops.
You must be new to the covid hashing out personal grievances thread.
It’s compartmentalization.
There is an irreverent take no prisoners side that is mostly for laughs or coping with the outrage of living with virtue claiming people that have no virtue.
I’m also the guy that knows what ultimate loss is. PM if you don’t know the story, don’t care to repeat it now.
Most of us on here cracking the gallows humor jokes have quite a bit of humanity and empathy. These things co-exist.
Mostly I treat this as internet message board. Lots of smart people here that i learn from and hopefully share some of my expertise. But for me at least it’s also cathartic. I get to let out the frustrations with this world we live in. That can have an edge to it they may be beyond other peoples sensitivities. Sometimes other people cross my lines. It happens. People have all kinds of hidden sore spots.
I know who and what I am. I’m comfortable with it, I’m not overly concerned if others are not.
We are all the clown, laughing on the outside, crying on the inside.
Confirmed real.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1430318370709200896?s=09
360 narrowly “won” the poll, fyi.
How can he screw up writing the second word of that poll?
I remember about a year ago or so bringing up there is no way insurance companies are just going to be okay with Covid expenses.
With the vaccine out I think it gives them a pretty good line in the sand point to deal with.
We still don’t know the real long ter effects of having Covid either which could be very costly if something develops.
This past June and July alone, the estimated cost of caring for unvaccinated people who were hospitalized for preventable cases of COVID-19 reached about $2.3 billion, according to a recent analysis by the Peterson Center on Healthcare and Kaiser Family Foundation. The analysis estimated that in those two months there were 113,000 unvaccinated people who were hospitalized primarily for COVID-19 and that their infection would have been prevented with vaccination.
IDK if you guys are following it over there but here in the antipodes we are finding it very tough to control these outbreaks. NSW is a writeoff, hitting over 1,000 new cases for the first time today, but Victoria (in its 6th lockdown, now over 200 days total locked down) and New Zealand are ticking along at double-digit cases but just not looking like they are turning the corner, for example Victoria:
These lockdowns are strict, like in New Zealand you can’t even get takeout, not even delivered. South Australia was lucky to catch its outbreak super-early, but unless you get it right at day 1 Delta is extremely tenacious. New Zealand are at 25% fully vaccinated and were relying on elimination, but it looks like that is incredibly hard to achieve.
