The numbers don’t show that at all.
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I can’t emphasize how wrong you are about ‘more than expected’ enough.
It’s not.
No mas. At this point you’re monopolizing this thread for nonsense.
No, it doesn’t depend, it’s extremely low. There’s a growing body of evidence along with basic germ theory to show this. I’m fine with you saying it’s not low enough for you to start letting down your guard but stop misrepresenting where the science is at.
not as much anymore, but very much in a lot of parts. It’s only purple lately bc the unpopularity of trump, and because a few of the larger cities with large immigrant populations are turning it more blue. It’s got a lot of old money and it’s very very red.
This article about Dr Walensky purports to be a fact-check, but actually made me like her more:
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Have any of you read Michael Lewis’s new book? I’m only a quarter through but its very critical of the CDC, makes me really skeptical of everything that they’re putting out.
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It’s bad enough that such organizations struggle with “bureaucracy” getting in the way, but then to add Trumpian dystopia on top makes it impossible to function.
Need look no further than the FBI pre-911 for example of the former.
Didn’t help that sacred “theory” cows such as smear transmission and not recognizing aerosols were at play.
Yup. I read the article earlier over breakfast.
Two things stood out for me.
Six patients enrolled in [Raoult’s] treatment group at the beginning of the study were not accounted for by the end, missing from the data.
“What happened to the other six treated patients?” Bik said.
“Why did they drop out of the study? Three of them were transferred to the intensive care unit, presumably because they got sicker, and one died. It seems a bit strange to leave these four patients who got worse or who died out of the study, just on the basis that they stopped taking the medication … which is pretty difficult once the patient is dead.”
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Raoult
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The book (keeping in mind that I haven’t finished it) suggests they have a culture problem dating back to at least W. They are portrayed as a tepid politically savvy Cover Your Ass entity that foists the actual hard decision making on others. Its hard not to sympathetize with that point of view having just gone though their measured, tepid, CYA approach to mask guidance.
Sounds like they just filed some sort of lawsuit equivalent maybe?
The French are dumb.
One argument for not vaccinating children against Covid is they get relatively little benefit from it.
“Fortunately one of the few good things about this pandemic is children are very rarely seriously affected by this infection,” said Prof Adam Finn, who sits on the UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation.
Infections in children are nearly always mild or asymptomatic, which is in sharp contrast to older age groups who have been prioritised by vaccination campaigns.
A study across seven countries, published in the Lancet, estimated that fewer than two out of every million children died with Covid during the pandemic.
Children do not appear to be major spreaders of coronavirus, but older teenagers may still play a role.
“There’s certainly evidence of potential for transmission in secondary school ages (12yr+), so vaccinating could have an impact on overall transmission,” said Dr Adam Kucharski, from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.
But there is not a universal answer on whether it is worthwhile.
USA#1
I also wonder how many of the breakthrough severe infections are of people who are really really old and infirm (but not necessarily technically immunocompromised).
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‘May have led’ but alas no contract tracing or genomic surveillance so whadda they know
Article basically states two months after opening schools Texas had some covid cases and deaths - during a pandemic
Just look overseas, ROW’s been OFS throughout the pandemic…and UK has test and trace and genocially surveys 50% of the total worldwide cases and belives under 12’s don’t really add to transmission
Anyone die in Texas before they opened the schools?
Any idea even with schools closed why the US has a disproportionate no. of under 4’s dying from covid? Would that be anything to do with bars, restaurants, takeaways etc being open in the US throughout a pandemic? Can’t be their older siblings bringing it home from school so must be something else.
It isn’t really “an article said this”, it is this analysis said this.
Obviously, yes, the US being OFB helped lead to bad results regardless of what schools did
or didn’t do.
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I’ll read the 75 page analysis another time.
The abstract sums it up fairly well in one paragraph. Conclusion is one page.
It’s also deeply amusing how fast that paper went from “too simple” to “too complicated for churchill to attempt to understand”
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Yeah I haven’t read it either. I’m just saying “an article said this” isn’t really accurate. There’s an academic paper and modeling behind it, not a claim from thin air.
It’s a paper from Texas that hasn’t quite made it’s way into any recognised journal yet.
I can write a paper.
More like a book actually…some solid analysis here…
Data care of SafeGraph Inc.? I’m sure the BBC will run some news on this anlysis soon…
Would you like to answer the question why the US seems to have had more deaths (during covid and pre-pandemic) in the under 4’s than European reporting countries has had in the under 9’s? When schools have been closed in the US and open in ROW?