COVID-19: Chapter 8 - Ongoing source of viral information, and a little fun

Have you ever considered that other people probably know more than you about their own medical conditions?

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Its more like I canā€™t do anything to stop them, they donā€™t gaf if Iā€™m wearing a mask or not and me wearing a mask isnā€™t going to have an effect on that problem one way or another.

really good news, Iā€™ll bet Bill Gates is more mad about this than his divorce. Too bad!

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This is also interesting:

Iā€™m not sure how rigorous the methods are here, but it was the only post-resumption polling I could find.

Fwiw itā€™s what I would pick if I had a choice. You canā€™t compare the studies really but Pfizer had the same effectiveness as moderna with less side effects. Again, not scientifically valid.

Went out to lunch today. Zero people including staff wearing a mask. Should I be wearing a mask in this situation? Iā€™m going to say no. Donā€™t agree with Keed on this situation completely but if you guys think masks are going to be the norm 3 months from now in the vast majority of the country I would say you are wrong.

I personally think we should still be wearing them indoors in public but as a fully vaxed person in a setting with no masks worn by anyone and no suggestion to wear one, wearing one doesnā€™t make a lot of sense. Maybe I shouldnā€™t have been there at all, who knows. I had no idea it was going to be a free for all prior to arriving and it was a work thing.

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I celebrated my two weeks after my second vaccination by going out to a nice place for dinner. It was literally the first time I got food from anywhere other than the grocery store in over a year. Not even takeout. It was an indoor restaurant. I mean, what are we supposed to do? Wear a mask and pull it back to take a bite or a drink? If thatā€™s similar to what the protocol is supposed to be, I guess Iā€™ll be better off just sticking with the grocery store until that changes.

I agree with you and was very disappointed they let the mask mandate expire on May 1. That being said do you agree that me wearing my mask to and from my table likely has almost no impact on the overall risk situation there? Like I basically agree with Keed that the benefit to myself and others would have been so negligible as to be theatre.

Iā€™ve always thought based on the studies we have seen that wearing masks in restaurants as we walk to our table makes little sense. Not going at all makes lots of sense but itā€™s hard for me to see how restaurants havenā€™t been a giant pozz fest all along. Thatā€™s why I didnā€™t go until I was fully vaxed at all.

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Exactly. Iā€™ve heard the thing about surfaces not being a great virus transmission source after all, but I struggle with that. Between the airborne virus and the covid-snot on my dinner roll, restaurants are just prime spreaders. So thatā€™s why I didnā€™t go either until now.

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Took over 5 months but the Czech government has finally opened a mass vaccination center in the O2 Arena. Could inoculate 7,000 people per day.

I have no idea why it took this long but itā€™s a step in the right direction. Weā€™ll also be dropping the vaccination age another 5 years to 45 starting next week.

Was nice to get a haircut and my beard trimmed properly. Been 7 months since I got it done.

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For me it wasnā€™t peer pressure with regard to the mask so much as what is the point. Now as to being there at all ya maybe that was peer pressure. If it had just been me and the wife maybe we leave.

The restaurant could very easily have been a super spreader event but I guess my take is that it is very unlikely due to me and very unlikely I suffer the consequences. Not impossible mind you, but my being there likely changes very little.

I personally think this is a very tough time to navigate as someone who wants to be responsible but also is desperate to resume real life. It feels like a tight rope to walk to constantly figure out what I should be doing.

My ultimate world view is that Covid is never going away. I live in Oklahoma where I will be stunned if we hit 55% full vax rate. We are at 29% and our governor announced today we have so much surplus he is giving it back to the Federal government. What am I reasonably supposed to do? Never eat out again? Never see family and friends indoors maskless again? At some point the blame needs to be laid at the feet of the people who have been to blame all along rather than those of us who sacrificed a year of our lives to protect others and waited for a vaccine.

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It is more of an argument against things like the Atlantic article posted earlier this week about why canā€™t the funny liberal communities go back to normal than criticism of individual behavior.

Individual risk tolerance is almost certainly the end game as the vaccinated shielding to protect the YOLO crowd canā€™t happen and there isnā€™t a community attempt to eliminate COVID. But we are vaccine or bust and being very cavalier as a country towards protecting those vaccines.

Also (as a country, not you or keed or anyone individually) fuxk them kids message received loud and clear

Whatā€™s the daily new cases per hundred thousand looking like near you? Absolute and trend line?

Iā€™m in the county just to the right of where the H starts in Oklahoma City. Thatā€™s pretty low right?

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I do think there is something to this by the way. I already talked about going to the grocery store where masks are no longer required but recommended. I was angry at the 10% who didnā€™t wear masks and labelled them all Trump scum in my head. So is it hypocritical of me to go maskless in a restaurant? Iā€™m not sure it is for the prime reason that you canā€™t even do the activity at a restaurant with a mask on. Meanwhile at a grocery there is no real justification to not do it. Now again maybe I shouldnā€™t be there at the restaurant at all.

I appreciate your responses by the way. Iā€™m mostly posting here for feedback on my thought process. I think the next few months are going to be very weird and hard to navigate. I think I feel invincible even though I know I am not. I mean if we could take a vaccine and be 95% resistant to STDs would people wear condoms? Iā€™m almost certain the answer is no for the vast majority given how condom usage is very far from universal (donā€™t @ me Clovis). This situation seems pretty analogous to that.

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Not sure about this.

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Like how can I read this and think this ever ends in this hellhole?

Every major organization recommends pregnant patients to get vaccinated.

@hokie

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Like I said earlier his stance on this is not surprising.