COVID-19: Chapter 8 - Ongoing source of viral information, and a little fun

[VoteForSocialists]

i bought some off amazon, and they were advertized as silicone but were actually just plastic, so they slide down my head. just be aware.

[Nononocantsleep]

For the record, these are what I wear: https://gildan.com/gildan-reusable-3-layer-self-care-face-mask-with-ear-loops/. I have a pretty big head, but they are insanely comfortable, with extremely elastic ear-loops that don’t cause any pain at all.

[otatop]

If you search for “ear savers” something like those should come up.

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

@VoteForSocialists

i bought some off amazon, and they were advertized as silicone but were actually just plastic, so they slide down my head. just be aware.

I’m actually trying to use it as a solution for my 2 year old. She has a very small head and most masks are too big. The only masks i can find that work are a few brands of paper masks that are 5 inches by 3 inches (the standard kids 5.7x3.7 are too big and don’t stay on). My theory is that I can jury rig the bigger masks to work using that thing.

[NotBruceZ]

https://twitter.com/MattZeitlin/status/1389989772861583365

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

Thanks!

[anon10396289]

It’s never been demonstrated that the vaccinated significantly spread covid, the research has shown that the vaccines not only prevent cases, prevent serious cases and deaths, but also prevent transmission. So no, I’m not going to take the same precautions as I was six months ago when I was unvaccinated and the rate of covid infections was ten or twenty times higher than it is now. I’m going to go back to normal. As far as kids not being able to be vaccinated, something like 100 people under 18 died in the US of covid. Not really a compelling argument for staying locked alone in my house every night.

[anon12304106]

I think company policy for CVS and Walgreens is no ID required. I know Walgreens had turned away a few in MA for no ID and then publicly stated that was an error. CVS looks like it has the same corporate policy.

May be a state by state thing though.

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

@anon10396289

Not really a compelling argument for staying locked alone in my house every night.

You get that there’s a difference between staying locked alone in your house every night, and wearing a mask, right? Right?!?!

[spidercrab]

@NotBruceZ

https://twitter.com/MattZeitlin/status/1389989772861583365

This would be good news if true.

Here’s the study:
https://osf.io/j5hf2/

Summary:

Our survey suggests that awareness of the J&J pause was extremely high. Despite this, vaccine hesitancy/resistance did not increase for responses received after the pause, and our analysis of repeat respondents suggests a small but systematic shift decrease, largely because a fair number of people who were vaccine hesitant in early April were vaccinated by late April. In short, it seems very unlikely that the pause had major negative effects on vaccine attitudes.

I think this is the most informative graphic (but I also love this type of graphic, so I’m probably biased):

[anon10396289]

Wearing a mask where? Last night I went out to dinner with seven other people. No one but the waitstaff was wearing a mask. I assume everyone here is saying I’m reckless for going out to dinner indoors in the first place, not because I didn’t wear a mask walking from my car to my table, right?

If it’s just wearing a mask as I breeze by the hostess stand, lol, what difference does it make.

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

@JohnnyTruant

I’m afraid they won’t help for that from my recent experience. My kids already have the earloops touching each other in the back with most masks, and while it will reduce the space between them comapared to most adults ears, on the lowest setting, it did not reduce it enough. The solution from there was to tie the loops to make them smaller but at that point you may as well tie the loops together IMO and forgo the heavier piece of silicone. They do help for me and my wife when wearing the ear loop masks though when tested.

Uggh, ok thanks. I wish 5x3’s were easier to find at less than $1 per mask disposable. I guess there aren’t a lot of 2 year olds masking.

[anon10396289]

I didn’t mean to imply that vaccines perfectly prevent transmission any more than they perfectly prevent infections or serious infections. My point is that being vaccinated reduces all risks tremendously, far more than masks.

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

@anon10396289

Wearing a mask where? Last night I went out to dinner with seven other people. No one but the waitstaff was wearing a mask. I assume everyone here is saying I’m reckless for going out to dinner indoors in the first place, not because I didn’t wear a mask walking from my car to my table, right?

If it’s just wearing a mask as I breeze by the hostess stand, lol, what difference does it make.

I mean, is it that fucking hard? I literally just came back from eating lunch out. I took the mask off when the drinks arrived and put it on when I was done eating, or when the waitress came by to be courteous. Before vaccination I wouldn’t set foot inside a restaurant, so yeah, I’m not saying you don’t change your behavior post-vaccination. But also, yeah, wearing a mask at this stage of the pandemic when you’re not actively eating or drinking AND you are around other people is just common courtesy.

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

@JohnnyTruant

We got some 3m small medical n95 masks when the kids went to the dentist that were super high quality and fit just right. Can’t find them anywhere. We know the dental assistant at that office and she said that they stopped ordering them because nobody was using them. The kids like them the best, they are the best fit and they are n95. Sucks.

Amazon does have some 5x3 paper masks. They’re just expensive as shit. Since my 2 year old routinely decides to eat her mask I’m going through 2-3 masks every time I take her out at about $1 per mask. It adds up. Meanwhile I can get a 50 pack of the larger masks for like $2.50.

[anon10396289]

It isn’t hard but that doesn’t sound terribly effective to me at preventing anything. It seems like what I said originally: theater. Not something that actually is meant to or does reduce anyone’s risk.

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

@JohnnyTruant

You are very safe personally, and pose a small risk to others. It is not worth it to you to wear a mask for those others. Cool.

Concur with this sentiment.

[Buddha]

There’s a chance it makes the hostess not have a moment of anxiousness. Which is just being a nice person, so why not? Given the staff is masked up, why not a little courtesy?

[anon10396289]

That’s my whole point though: masks should not be a signal or a sign of solidarity or a political statement. They should be a public health precaution that are either necessary or not. If they’re necessary they should be worn, and be compulsory. If they aren’t necessary then it should be up to the individual.

[spidercrab]

@j8i3h289dn3x7

@JohnnyTruant

You are very safe personally, and pose a small risk to others. It is not worth it to you to wear a mask for those others. Cool.

Concur with this sentiment.

This is me looking ahead a few weeks to when vaccines are available to kids, as well. But if the small risk I pose is to people who have chosen not to get the vaccine, then I’m not particularly bothered by that.

If we can’t get to herd immunity, then I have a really hard time accepting a world where non-vaccinated people get to live their lives freely, but I’m expected to wear a mask in order to limit risk for those non-vaccinated individuals.

I guess I fall in a middle ground where I (like Keeeeeeed) believe that my wearing a mask is largely signaling/theater, but I also believe (like jman and johnny) that there’s value in that signaling and that it’s worthwhile to continue wearing the mask.