The Raiders are going vax required, test not good enough.
Jesus fucking Christ. This thread really put me in a funk today.
Wife and I just agreed no more restaurants, indoors or out.
Really not looking forward to the school year starting in a couple of weeks.
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So here is the update from sunny Florida.
My daughter has been in school for 6 whole days. 1 kid in her class went home sick today and the kid who sits next to her (no gap in the desks) told her that he felt sick before leaving. Obviously, the nurse doesnāt have rapid tests to give the kids because that would make too much sense.
There is no drive thru testing in my county (600k people), despite that Florida has the second highest infection rate on Earth after Louisiana. I donāt know if there is reliable drive thru testing anywhere in Florida. It currently takes around ~6 hours to a get a covid test from urgent care, some are reporting that they wonāt test you unless you are symptomatic. This is problematic because if getting a test is difficult, it discourages testing, more likely sick kids just get sent to school, etc. I just checked CVS and to get a test appointment you have to wait 3 days.
Currently, 4100 students are in quarantine and 1077 students/employees tested positive out of around ~67,000 students.
The people who didnāt want masks are now getting upset that their kids are being forced to quarantine. It appears that we are now going to shift from the debate over masking to quarantining.
Iām considering pulling her out of school but there is no remote learning available - so I will be home schooling alone - I guess in isolation unless we meet similarly minded people and I donāt know when the fuck she can get the vaccine because the FDA is being super fucking vague (late Sept vs early 2022) ??
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Yeah, Iād pull her out.
Given those dynamics, it just shouldnāt take that long for the vast majority to get it.
Like seriously, reassess in two/four weeks.
Was listening to the local sports radio show today. They had a caller today
āSo do you think I will have to be vaccinated to attend Kentucky football games?ā
āI could see itā
āWell I guess I might have to get vaccinated thenā¦ā
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But once again shows, maybe the only way to fucking end this is ban unvaxxed from doing like anything
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That wasnāt incredibly obvious to everyone from the beginning? Federal gov should have covid app integrated to work with walmart/walgreens/cvs/local gov from the beginning. should be excluding them from everything.
I mean it was, but I still pulled my hair out hearing some fucker say he would finally get vaxxed if he couldnāt attend a football game.
No I get that Iām saying that not sure north gonna be any better for super spreader events come fall if we just go full capacity. LA going to masks for outdoor sporting events, hopefully we see more sanity like that and capacity restrictions back in place in the north
Because there are no signs yet that immunity from infection is waning much. And people have been getting sick for a year longer than vaccines first became available.
Have you heard lots of stories of people getting sick twice? I havenāt. And weāre pretty plugged in here. Did Dr. Osterholm have anything to say on that?
At some point if the virus is really more infectious than measles, assuming it doesnāt mutate into a much worse IFR, it feels like a losing game to try to keep from catching it. Just get vaccinated and live your life. Take reasonable precautions. But wearing an N95 to go golfing or putting off vacations indefinitely feels a little extreme.
Regarding leisure travel - I donāt think anything Americans do or donāt do is going to impact the long-term spread or future mutations of the virus around the globe. If itās going to mutate into something worse, itās going to happen even if we all stay in our homes for the next two years.
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Why are shutdowns off the table again? Does it really hurt the economy more than what is gonna happen when hospitals are overrun?
When hospitals start to get over-run there will be lockdowns. Thatās the way itās been from the very beginning. Red states, blue states - pretty much the same just with different rhetoric.
I donāt think there will be another round of lockdowns. But a very hard you have to be vaxxed to do pretty much anything is very much on the table. That seems to be where we are heading.
Donāt think thereās any political will for lockdowns outside of blue states. Maybe weāll see what happens now that AL is out of ICU beds.
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Picked a good day to catch up on this thread
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They are just gonna try to make more beds thatās all
Yes, he said there was reinfection but didnāt present data, just said they are seeing more of it when tracing in Minnesota. I can think of some public examples (Jon Rahm has tested positive for COVID three separate times), but the cases for reinfection Iāve seen people make involve repeated waves in places like Brazil and India. I saw one cited claim that part of India had 65 percent seroconversion before its last wave, which then means either mass reinfection or a 10% CFR from delta, but never delved into it that deeply.
I agree we are all going to get COVID, I donāt think we are at or maybe even close to the ājust live your life and stop worrying partā although we get their eventually.
Given current community transmission levels and the very fragile state of our healthcare system, now would seem to be a good time to wear that n95 while outside golfing, but it isnāt a permanent state of affairs. Goes to what I was saying earlier. It is probably waves for awhile. In June, was probably fine for the vaccinated to eat out and unmask in most places. Now, we probably should be masking up and taking Spring 2020 like precautions for a bit.
I disagree that what Americans do doesnāt matter, although I was thinking more of golbal restrictions on leisure travel, not an American specific thing. We (not Americans, humans) are spreading every bad variant to every corner of the earth, it seems like a bad plan.
Edit: maybe rahm only got it twice, was thinking he said not again when he got notified at Memorial and got it once after that but only see two public tests
Also not trying to come at people for vacations, just maybe we should stay near home/try to be outdoors for vacations for a bit
Cloning nurses probably a better plan.
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Id be surprised if there was any will in the blue states either. It would take Federal financial support at minimum. But Suzzer is right, states have managed to healthcare capacity and we are about to run out soā¦yeah, donāt know, I havenāt been able to figure it out for weeks now.
https://twitter.com/RafaelAnchia/status/1427853105937489921
Paris I feel like this falls under, nice try .