COVID-19: Chapter 8 - Ongoing source of viral information, and a little fun

We’re going to see regional increases in low vaccination rate southern states as the hot weather forces people indoors. I think the rates in well-vaccinated northern states and California will continue to fall. The net result of that on the US numbers in total? Could go either way.

Maybe they let epidemiologists control the rollout rather than MDs which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. There was significant evidence of one dose being very effective, so the risk of delaying past the tested times was not high as they were willing to gamble on twice as many people being 80% immune rather 95% immune being more effective to reduce case numbers and deaths

The problem is that you didn’t actually know if people were 80% immune or whatever. Robust studies were never actually done on that subject before that decision was made, much less how long that immunity lasts.

https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1402429274083188742?s=19

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This just isn’t true with regards to the vaccines. They saved time by combining phases and by beginning mass production well before they knew if the vaccines worked (by pouring money into it that could have been the equivalent of setting money on fire if it failed), but the fact is they DID follow the established gold-standard method for vaccine testing. They didn’t cut corners.

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https://twitter.com/AshleyRParker/status/1402684030823264257?s=19

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Yeaaaaaah, boyee!

I’d like to see someone try and diss Big Daddy Biden now!

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mRNA vaccines are also much faster to develop than traditional vaccines:

The scope of mRNA vaccines always went beyond any one disease. Like moving from a vacuum tube to a microchip, the technology promises to perform the same task as traditional vaccines, but exponentially faster, and for a fraction of the cost. “You can have an idea in the morning, and a vaccine prototype by evening. The speed is amazing,” says Daniel Anderson, an mRNA therapy researcher at MIT.

This gives mRNA a massive speed advantage over traditional methods, meaning the flu virus would have less time to mutate before a vaccine arrives. “The lead time to make the vaccine is so much shorter. You could make a huge batch in two weeks. You could even have multiple different flu vaccines across the winter if it changes in real time,” Blakney says.

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This is probably the best and fastest way to get vaccines to poorer countries. We still need better vaccine infrastructure, but in terms of immediate relief probably the best option.

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Only after the normal scientific method for testing and evaluating vaccines was used.

Also don’t forget when seeing these kind of stats that there are a LOT of people out there who are immunocompromised or otherwise have health conditions that make the vaccines less effective or not work at all in them. Everything so far that we are seeing is that the MRNA vaccines, and even J&J & AZ are INCREDIBLY effective at preventing hospitalizations and death.

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Welp 2 of my roomates are pozzed. There are 3.3 million people in San Diego County and only 62 people tested positive yesterday. One is unvaccinated and the other got the J&J vaccine. They had 3 people over for an outside bbq on memorial day and the one unvaccinated person who came ended up having covid.

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Very curious how it goes for the J&J person.

Also you could maybe take one for science and try to poz yourself.

The J&J person complained several times before finally getting their shot that the side effects would be worse than getting covid so this should be interesting for them as well. The unvaccinated person believes they can’t get vaccinated because of side effects but they also believe everyone should else should get vaccinated and they stayed at home unemployed for the last 15 months so I feel pretty bad for them.

What is the real population that can’t get vaccinated compared to those that say/think they can’t?

10%???

Under. Way under.

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Doh?

.001%

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Is there any reason to think that’s real? I hadn’t heard anything about that being a possibility.

Meh it’s not implausible, but nothing to back it