COVID-19: Chapter 8 - Ongoing source of viral information, and a little fun

[CaffeineNeeded]

Deviating from the proven effective schedule was always fucking stupid and remains so.

[Churchill]

@CaffeineNeeded

Deviating from the proven effective schedule was always fucking stupid and remains so.

wrong again…

Why does the Indian variant pose a threat?

Why could the Indian variant be a problem when the vaccination programme is doing so well?

The issue is we are only part way through even though those most at risk have been prioritised.

There is still debate about how transmissible the new variant is.

But modelling by the University of Warwick has estimated a 30%-40% more transmissible variant, combined with relaxing restrictions in May and June, could lead to more hospital admissions than in the first wave.

It would be a very different situation if we were in the autumn when overall levels of immunity would be making it harder for the virus to spread.

Instead we are in the delicate phase where restrictions are being eased as the vaccine is taking over the burden of suppressing the virus.

One option being considered is closing the gap between the first and second doses.

This would give vulnerable people, who have already been offered their first jab, extra protection more quickly.

However, there could be a trade-off as studies suggest the current 12-week gap between doses leads to a better immune response than the originally planned three-week gap.

US is still on what 150x more daily deaths than the UK with same rate of vaccination?

@Churchill

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[6ix]

The CDC’s Big Mask Surprise Came Out of Nowhere

emphasis mine:

Yesterday, the CDC announced that fully vaccinated Americans can stop wearing masks in most indoor and outdoor places. The new guidelines still advise the fully vaccinated to mask up when entering certain public areas, such as doctor’s offices.

This is a moment to celebrate. It is not quite the pandemic’s equivalent of V-E Day; after all, thousands of people are still dying around the world each day from a virus that, far from surrendering, may be endemic. But it could be the closest we get to a formal announcement from the federal government that, after months of death and sacrifice and ingenuity, something has been won. Call it normalcy.

[6ix]

AFTER ALL

[Coasterbrad]

@Churchill

US is still on what 150x more daily deaths than the UK with same rate of vaccination?

Gonna need you to show your work for this one. Preferably adjusted for population, but that might make your statement seem too incorrect even for you.

[6ix]

@anon46587892

@NotBruceZ

Toronto Star (TorontoStar)

NEW from @nkeung: Until two weeks ago, Carlo Escario was working directly with COVID-19 patients in the intensive-care unit. He’s asking not to be deported to the Philippines until he gets his second dose of COVID-19 vaccine thestar.com/news/canada/20…

9:52 PM - 11 May 2021

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2021/05/13/humanity-wins-canada-postpones-deportation-of-health-worker-at-11th-hour-so-he-can-get-second-dose-of-covid-19-vaccine.html

Carlo Escario reported to the border agency’s office at Pearson airport at 7:30 a.m. on Thursday for the flight that was to remove him from Canada.

Then at 8:39 a.m., his cellphone rang.

“Carlo, where are you?” asked his removal officer at the other end of the line. “Your removal has been cancelled and postponed to June 22. Come back and pick up your travel document and papers. You can go home.”

humanity is getting tired of all this winning

[Churchill]

@Coasterbrad

Gonna need you to show your work for this one. Preferably adjusted for population, but that might make your statement seem too incorrect even for you.

UK population 66m.

Are you gonna waste my time requesting I post the US graphs?

[Smacc_25]

https://mobile.twitter.com/YvetteCooperMP/status/1393220512139128840

https://mobile.twitter.com/YvetteCooperMP/status/1393220513812602880

[Trolly]

@Coasterbrad

Gonna need you to show your work for this one. Preferably adjusted for population, but that might make your statement seem too incorrect even for you.

Who even fucking cares. Jesus, pointing at the death toll like it’s a scoreboard is the dumbest shit ever.

[CaffeineNeeded]

Your post is a mixture of irrelevant nonsense and mistakes.

[Coasterbrad]

Well you waste all of our time with your fake news nonsense every day, so yes. Here’s a hint: you’re orders of magnitude off on your 150x claim.

[Coasterbrad]

You’re 100% right. I’m sorry for engaging him. A few days ago I suggested he be ignored by everyone on here. Should take my own advice.

[Churchill]

@Coasterbrad

Well you waste all of our time with your fake news nonsense every day, so yes. Here’s a hint: you’re orders of magnitude off on your 150x claim.

Sorry, yes 78x the death of the UK (11 vs 780)

I think you have 5.5x the UK population so should have say 60 deaths - so say 12x per capita with that so much more effective vaccine campaign of the US’ - hoorah

[Coasterbrad]

Cool, so in your condescending cockiness you were a mere 1,250% wrong.

[6ix]

@QuantGamble

Most of that shit we aren’t going to know ever . It doesn’t matter. Sure it’s possible little Timmy is going to have ED or be a 5G hotspot in 10 years because of his asymptomatic COVID case but it’s super unlikely. You sound like the anti-vaxxers who don’t want to take the new mRNA vaccines because we don’t know what the long term effects are.

The difference is nobody has died from wearing a mask. I mean, maybe one person has accidentally inhaled the mask and choked on it but I’m guessing that’s an upper bound.

Your analogy would hold if like 1 in 10000 masks were dipped in a deadly neurotoxin. Lol that’d be sick. It’s cool though, I heard a vaccine side-effect is it makes people super good at analogies so you’re in luck.

@QuantGamble

Because they are annoying to wear for long stretches. People in the Far East don’t wear a mask every time they go to the gym or the movies ffs.

Nvm, that’s the good shit, right into my veins. Over a year on and I still don’t understand why people didn’t and won’t exercise outside.

[6ix]

@JohnnyTruant

I used to sell mattresses. people often would come in and get an expensive mattress for themselves and the cheapest pos possible for their kid. They don’t need anything that good, was the line. One of my coworkers figured out the formula. They were not going to be convinced by explaining how important good sleep is to growing children. Not about how brain development is taking place with good rest. Not about how grades and sports and general health are all supported by good sleep. I mean we are not talking about stepping up to a luxury set, we are talking about getting above the low end dog bed quality. But you know what worked? Telling them that if they get the worst bed the kid will take longer to put to bed and get up in the night and bother them more often. So with that in mind…Kids also are a reservoir for mutations, and will be able to be vaxxed in a matter of months most likely. If you are not worried about them getting covid, even though you yourself likely had a less than 1 percent chance of dying, you can still be selfishly concerned with that.

@simplicitus

https://twitter.com/MaxCRoser/status/1393126767284609024?s=19

Reminds me of an old joke:

Q: What do you call {REDACTED}

A: A good start!

[suzzer99]

That settles it. I’m moving to Mongolia.

[amead]

Scoreboarding the deaths of innocent folks, even if they don’t live in your particular little chunk of earth inside the imaginary lines, is a new low for this thread. That’s some truly deplorable stuff right there, for shame.

[QuantGamble]

@6ix

Nvm, that’s the good shit, right into my veins. Over a year on and I still don’t understand why people didn’t and won’t exercise outside.

I can’t lift outside, though I’ll grant you that masks are not that annoying for lifting. I did/do cardio outside but many here would’ve wanted me wearing a mask for that too. Also in the winter it gets cold, or snows. Sometimes it’s raining. Etc.

[cassette]

No kidding. 6ix, do you even lift bro?