Is that shine?
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I asked a long time friend who is a nurse if she was getting the vaccine and this was the reply
āIām anti this vaccine. there is no way Iām getting that shit when no one knows the side effects long term. Fuck that. I clean my hands, wear a mask and social distance. Thatās all the vaccine I need. I donāt even get the flu vaccine.ā
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Thereās a huge doctor/nurse split in flu vaccine numbers too.
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Can confirm a lot of my wifeās nursing co-workers are shocking anti-science morons only doing it because they make more $$$than the alternative.
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Your place is a little more rustic/countrified than I expected.
Also regular Bud Light not pisswatery enough for you?
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From a selfish POV if youāre young and healthy it sort of makes sense to refuse the vaccine. So I guess itās not surprising so many are refusing.
I have non-zero sympathy for people who know damn well the govt liest to us all the time but arenāt on the ball enough to know which times the govt probably isnāt lying to us. The at-risk people refusing though are supreme morons.
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10 days of talking to another human being then going straight back into shutin life is a tough transition.
Iām finding Hoda and Jenna surprisingly comforting right now.
It makes zero sense at all if you are mentally part of this timeline. If you live in a fantasy land where covid is a hoax, then sure I guess it makes sense given your delusions.
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āIf you are anti-vaccine, how do you envision this pandemic ever ending? Do you not want life to ever return to pre-Covid times, say in the next 10 years? Thatās a terribly bleak worldview that shows a total disregard for the health and happiness of hundreds of millions of people.ā
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The whole anti-vaxx movement is basically counting on others to do the dirty work for you - even though they tell themselves itās for other reasons.
People donāt understand what vaccines are and arenāt capable of doing long term. Plan A for these people is donāt get it. Plan B is theyāll probably be ok anyway if they do get it. To them getting vaxxed feels like skipping straight to Plan B.
Wouldnāt covid end just like 1918 ended? After 3 years everyone has died or gotten sick enough that it just becomes a normal strain of flu when they catch it the next time. At least I think thatās what happened with the 1918 strain?
When do we get the trip report?
Itās in the Nashville bombing thread ldo.
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I know you know this so this is not directed at you ā¦
We currently have tens of millions of people out of work, businesses closed and/or going under soon, people cannot pay their rent, people cannot feed their families, schools are closed, where I live (California) people are under a āstay at homeā order, etc., etc., etc.
Obviously, this is an untenable and unsustainable situation. And (sans vaccine) will likely get worse before it gets better. If the āsolutionā is to let millions die and society reaches āherd immunityā, count me out. There is no way we can tolerate this for three more years.
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Eventually, but no guarantee on the timescale. Some past plagues lasted 20 years.
Also, to the above, yes the bandaids are untenable for much longer. They are untenable now in a lot of ways. Iām in a well off area and the food pantry is drowning. Back rent is piling up, these bills are delayed not cancelled. If there is not a hospitality industry medium term, what happens to the ālower-skilledā workforce?
Basically the post pandemic USA is going to be much more unequal with less income mobility and a smaller safety net than pre pandemic USA. Every day the pandemic extends the worse it is going to be on the other side, and the sane Americans have at least another year of highly restricted life to get to this awful other side. It is super depressing.
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Iāve been banging this drum since the very beginning. There are going to be so many who turn it down, that it will be offered to all sooner than expected. I projected late March, but it might be even earlier in France if all they could find is 100 people in the first 3 days.
Hmm āVaccines are for Winnersā Campaign. If you didnāt vote for the winner in the presidential election you can not get it.
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I think the āsolutionā is going to be everyone who wants to get a vaccine gets one (so we need univeral access for a few months) and then we return to normal. Unvaccinated people roll the dice and deal with the consequences.
That would almost be a perfectly fair solution except for problems Iāve pointed out earlier:
-People who canāt get it for medical reasons
-Surrogate decision makers who opt out for others (demented/incompetent people, kids when vaccine is approved for them).
-People who get vaccinated without attaining immunity
-Probably some others that Iām just not thinking of at the moment.
Thatās the best we can do. Itās unfortunate, but I have come to accept it.
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What the heck is going on in nursing schools?
Iām not arguing with you at all. Iām just saying I think thatās what would happen sans vaccine.