COVID-19: Chapter 7 - Brags, Beats, and Variants

[suzzer99]

Presumably most people who have already gotten reasonably sick will get less sick the second, third, fourth times around.

[NotBruceZ]

I have lowered expectations.

[Danspartan]

I don’t disagree. Just thinking out loud on how to get into arms.
Maybe charging $2,000 a shot would start a feeding Frenzy. The rich are going to get it first somehow anyways, might as fill treasury coffers vs the black market

^not serious

[bobman0330]

The way this all started, and the way all these hyper-deadly flus that occasionally show up start, is that someone gets bitten by a goose or a pangolin or whatever that’s infected by an enterprising, mutated goose/pangolin/whatever virus that has somehow figured out how to infect humans (even though humans are not all that similar to pangolins). That’s why people are always talking about how we should close down these wet markets to limit interactions, how you should speak soothingly around pangolins, etc. Even though it’s very hard for pangolin viruses to sicken people, and most people never see pangolins, we’ve still got millions dead from a pangolin virus.

In a world of 50% vaccination uptake, we’re all living in a world where we’re constantly interacting with these pangolin-virus reservoirs, even if we never see a pangolin. And to make it worse, the virus is already pre-mutated form its native state to effective attack humans. It just needs to overcome the sole hurdle of vaccine antibodies.

[Trolly]

More people would want to get the vaccine if we made it expensive and exclusive.

[Melkerson]

@Marksman

You keep positing best case scenarios for vaccine rollout and i am saying if 1 is perfect and 100 is total cluster, we are likely hitting at 85.

You don’t think having people opt out if this won’t make things less efficient. Meanwhile someone literally posted directly after me doses are going to waste.

Wasted doses, massive inefficiencies, the potential for people to not get dosed properly and literally nobody is in charge.

I am telling you people who are scheduled not showing up is going to slow things down not speed it up because we are talking about competency all over the map and we are expecting all this little pockets to seamlessly handle these logistical issues with aplomb.

What happens when a nursing home gets 80 doses for 80 people and 20 don’t want it. Do you think those extra doses are efficiently then transferred to some place else efficiently?

There are literally hundreds of issues in all this and with literally no authority to sort it out and give direction we are going to have 5000 outlets flailing.

Nothing about this is efficient so far. I hope as we move into February we get most of this stuff handled but it should not have been this silly.

If there was ever something the federal government should be overseeing and managing, this is it. Instead they have passed the buck to states who are mostly not equipped to do this and are doing buck passing of their own.

I am not trying to pick a fight. I am just frustrated at how poorly this is unrolling. I know it won’t be that way forever but this is absolutely going to be responsible for a decent number of people unnecessarily dying.

I don’t know why you think that I think that the vaccine rollout it going to be great. I’ve never said it would be. If I were rating it on a scale of 1 to 100, I think it might be about a 20.

There are two things that I am saying though.

1. People opting out is not going to somehow make things less efficient. Not showing up for appointments is not the same as opting out. Those are two entirely different problems. Do you think people who opt out are going to make an appointment and then not show? Of course not. They’re just not going to make an appointment.

2. Waste from pierced vials is not going to be the downfall of this effort. There will be some waste. You always get some with multidose vials. And sure there will be one-offs like the guy posted above. That is not where this thing is going to fall apart. The problem is that there is no good system to give a ton of people these shots. That’s where we will fail. Some unused doses left in multidoses vials will be the least of our problems.

[bobman0330]

It should be like the draft. Everyone gets a number, and when your number comes up, you report in for the shot or you get taken to jail. It’s not complicated.

[suzzer99]

Mythbusters Contamination

MythBusters s08e10 Flu Fiction Pt 1

These will make you feel better.

[MrWookie]

MAGA Retirement Enclave Is Ground Zero in Florida Vaccine Shitshow

[Watevs]

Jesus

[Nicholasp27]

Should be charged with something for this

[MikeLikesOrgies]

Soooo just hoard the anti vaxxers into FEMA cult withdrawal camps?

[MikeLikesOrgies]

Drink every time bobman says Pangolin

[MikeLikesOrgies]

What’s the # of people outa 500 that would die? 1 or 2? Manslaughter has a nice ring to it .

[Coasterbrad]

I’m starting to think we’ll be lucky if 40% of the population gets vaccinated. Yesterday I asked my infusion nurse if he was able to get it or schedule it yet. This is a nurse who works in an oncology suite. His only patients are undergoing cancer treatment or autoimmune disease treatment. Probably 100% of them are immunocompromised. He said he’s not sure if he’s getting it, and leaning towards no, because he and his wife want to have kids some day and they’re not sure if it’s safe. JFC WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU YOU FUCKING IDIOT? I tried to nicely show my disgust and then asked if I could take his spot since we share a first name so I could say I’m him and I’m not an idiot.

[pyatnitski]

Well France is certainly learning from vaccination troubles elsewhere. The government says it’s being cautious and privileging pedagogy to make sure sceptics are kept on board. (Willingness to get the vaccine is around 40% here if you believe newspaper polls). The result, 100 people vaccinated in the first 3 days! I’m not going to do the maths on that speed of rollout, but I doubt it will cut it.

[Nicholasp27]

What are the odds 2 people named Coaster work together

[anon10396289]

@suzzer99

Kurt Eichenwald has been completely FOS on many things in the past so I wouldn’t necessarily believe anything that he tweets.

It really sucks too because his Enron book was like the best thing I’ve ever read and now I’m all fuck was it all bullshit?

[DrChesspain]

Many nurses are…not very smart.

[anon10396289]

@bobman0330

Call me a fair-weather fan, but I am officially done with humanity. I’m on Team COVID now, 100%. You expect ups and downs and I can deal with those, but this is a team that just fundamentally does not want to win, does not care about its fans, does not care about its players, has no strategy, it’s frankly an embarrassment, and I can’t watch it any more.

same energy