At least the “every governor” part seems to me to be a short, identifiable list of persons.
IANAL, but the relevant court case is Brandenburg v Ohio. A Klan leader was convicted for saying things like:
We’re not a revengent organization, but if our President, our Congress, our Supreme Court, continues to suppress the white, Caucasian race, it’s possible that there might have to be some revengeance taken.
The case held that:
Freedoms of speech and press do not permit a State to forbid advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.
The Brandenburg test allows speech to be banned if 1) it is intended to produce imminent lawless action and 2) that action is likely to occur. The follow-up case Hess v Indiana held that “advocacy of illegal action at some indefinite future time” was protected speech.
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Very true. But generally advocating for the violent overthrow of the government is protected. Making a specific plan to commit crimes is not.
It’s the difference between “Doug Ducey deserves to be executed for treason” and “Let’s get together on Friday and execute Doug Ducey for treason”.
Edit: and what NotBruceZ said ^
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Really blowing up in bay area grocery world.
We had a few unrelated positives up until November. And a bunch of known contacts/Yada Yada.
Now we’ve got current positives at all our locations. Multiple in some departments. Lots of families work or live together.
And worst of all, the first death. 60 years old, poor health, heavy drinker.
Oh and our neighbors all got pozzed. 3 generations. When SIL visited with a negative test that wasn’t. Grandpa spent Xmas in the hospital.
Its just rampant.
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I thought the military had some type of role in the logistics, but not actually distributing the vaccines. Agree though that this is a huge undertaking, and it doesn’t seem to me that we’re hearing enough about how its going. Hopefully, they’re not thinking this is like a flu vaccine, where the CVS pharmacist does an occasional vaccination in between filling prescriptions. This is a gigantic challenge, and will require boatloads of people giving injections all day, every day, for a while.
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I think we have heard of the military having some role but it sure doesn’t seem like that’s what is happening. It kind of reminds me of back in April/May when experts were telling Trump and state and local governments they needed to do 20m tests a day and Trump just said that’s impossible and even worse outsourced our testing to CVS bottlenecking it.
They were saying just a few weeks ago that we would have 20m vaccinated by the end of the year and it looks like we will have done 2m first doses by then. So something is seriously wrong with the current vaccine push. Since we need everyone to get 2 shots, 1m total series completed every 3 weeks means we only need about 990 weeks or 19-20 years to vaccinate everyone at our current rate. We not only need to speed up we need to dramatically speed up. If this is a vaccine we will need to get annually we need to go 20x faster than we are right now to vaccinate everyone in a year.
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Not yet.
Yeah Trump has legitimized crazy and now any and all takes are completely valid.
Oh you think the federal government blew the response? Well that’s just because you hate Trump.
You think everyone should take the vaccine? Well that’s just because you want the government to do everything for you.
You think we should listen to the science? Well what about that time dr fauci said we don’t need to wear masks. Science doesn’t know anything either.
You think people should stay home? Well that is because the media wants you to be scared.
You think schools should be closed? If you really cared about kids they’d be open.
You think dine in restaurants should be closed? Gavin Newsom doesn’t think so! He’s a hypocrite and so are you.
And on and on and we’re all so screwed. I don’t even need to debate right wingers anymore I can go ahead and own myself with their stupid drivel without even trying anymore and it sucks. Everyone is free to believe whatever the hell they want now.
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BTW I am eternally grateful for the military nurses and docs I worked with in NYC. They saved our ass.
Feeling melancholic today. Feels close to the bad times all of a sudden. Thinking about the military made me think of all the navy nurses I worked with at Elmhurst. It’s not peak bad times, but enough to make think it’s like late April.
Thinking about Elmhurst now too. Was only there for a month, but I started a week after this video.
I felt so supported in those times. You’d walk out of the hospital and see makeshift signs of support everywhere for people working at the hospital. Now? Man fuck me for wanting a little space in the grocery store. Hard not to be down.
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The line for the COVID-19 drive-through testing location that’s 0.8 miles away from my house is backed up a few blocks. It is normally just the right-most lane that is backed up, but when I saw it around noon today, a couple cops were directing traffic because two lanes were backed up as the results of people trying to get into the right lane. Good times.
I think many places are at peak bad times right now. I know it is that way here. It really sucks for all of you and I’m hoping you don’t see March and April where you work again.
My wife’s last shift the hospital was so short staffed they night shift basically didn’t show up to relieve the day shift in their ICU. Her boss tried to go round up nurses from trauma and they refused and so my wife ended up staying an extra 4 hours because when she left the night shift nurses had 4-5 ICU patients each. She is fed up and thinking about quitting. Can’t say I blame her.
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Pfizer is approved for 16 yos, but that’s the youngest approval I saw. Oxford might go lower, but I kinda doubt it. Hopefully they’ll keep testing it on younger kids so that they can be vaccinated by next fall.
I think Trump’s claim that doctors are inflating the number of covid cases for money was really one of the most revolting statements of his presidency. Completely clueless and classless.
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Honestly it’s not that it’s bad again that really bugs me, it’s that no one seems to care or believe that it’s bad.
I know that’s not true, but it sure seems that way
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It’s ok, kids don’t spread COVID.
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Obviously. But that’s not his question.
The question was why weren’t more eligible people vaccinated in the first week (for example). There were (I think), one million vaccinations given. Why wasn’t it two million? Or ten million? My understanding is that enough doses were produced to vaccinate far more than that many people.
That’s not explained by the fact that demand is great than supply. That is obviously a true statement, but it doesn’t answer the question.
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Well supposedly the new strain…
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