Yeah I’m gonna get a three day weekend out of tomorrow’s second shot.
Though I expect one third of it to suck.
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Well, for that first group of people, the argument is that if you take anybody and give them any super severe respiratory illness that sticks them in the ICU on a ventillator for weeks, then it’s not at all surprising that they may never recover their original level of fitness. So it’s not really “long COVID”. It’s just the long term effects of being really sick and many sicknesses can cause it.
Now if they go from marathon runner to barely able to walk after a lot of rehab, that’s perhaps different.
Same is true with the second category. Post-viral loss of smell has been described after lots of viral respiratory infections. Here is an article from 2004 about it.
So, once again, there is nothing unique about COVID here. It’s something that you can get from lots of different viruses.
So calling these kinds of things “long COVID” makes little sense to me. It’s true that they are a result of COVID, but when people say “long COVID” what I think they mean to say is that there is something unique about about SARS-CoV-2 that makes these things happen. It’s more useful to think of them as generic symptoms that can happen as a result of lots of different viral illnesses. And if you think of them that way, then “long COVID” just feels like a weird way to describe it.
It’s a fine distinction, I suppose, and maybe not even very practical. But I’m pretty sure most of the people who say “long COVID” aren’t thinking about it in the way I have just described.
That 2nd shot is kicking my ass already. Feeling nauseous and have a bad headache. Got the shot an hour ago.
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Seems like those are the exact type of guys who are going to notice long lasting effects, exactly because they’re fanatically measuring their athletic performance and are going to be tuned in to any decrease. I’m not going to notice if my lungs hurt if I try to run a mile because I’m not going to try to run a fuckin mile!
Kraft Heinz told AFP news agency that it had already made adjustments to its production processes, but that “demand was greater than supply”.
It said it had now added multiple new production lines in its factories and developed a “no-touch dispenser” for dine-in services.
Decreases in athletic performance isn’t what typically being referenced with long covid. That, again, makes sense in someone who has had pneumonia, which makes sense given her history of being pretty sick. Ditto for the shortness of breath.
The hormone stuff makes less sense. That could because they drew a thyroid level when she complained about being tired all the time. That could be covid related, it’s also pretty common problem for women in that age group.
You are getting at what’s part of the problem here: there’s no real definition of what ‘long covid’ is. People taking months to recover fully from pneumonia is normal and makes sense. People who didn’t even provably have covid when symptoms started with all sorts of weird symptoms that are severe yet intermittent like the BBC article above does not make sense.
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Well your personal sensibilities aside, I don’t imagine you would really find fault with someone who considered depression, for example, a disease of the brain.
Out of curiosity, what do you personally consider schizophrenia. Disease or brain state?
Sounds like a migraine. Ick.
GD Brits. Patiently waiting 245 years for their revenge.
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To my surprise and delight, I was able to make an appointment despite not being eligible until the 19th (since I’m in PA). So I made it for the 19th. It’s about 75 minutes away in a mostly rural area. Pfizer
My friend booked through the same site and it let him book for the 14th, despite him being in the same category as me. I hope they let him in.
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It’s only called the UK strain as we discovered it (a bit like America)
I’m pretty sure it escaped from a lab in Liverpool.
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I was the only one in the poll who was eligible but unable to find an appointment, but if anyone else is in that category, findashot.org got me an appointment for next week 30 miles away when I was striking out with other searches.
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I agree with that. On the other hand, if there exists a widespread notion that depression is not a real “disease”, then I think that harms the afflicted quite a bit.
I’m sure one could make a case for even that, but as you say, it’s a completely semantic argument.
I will say that if GSWs were as ubiquitous and stigmatized as depression, I’d be more inclined to view them as such.
Had an appointment with a big prick today. His name was Mr. Pfizer.
(reposting, I had posted in the oranges of covid thread by accident)
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