COVID-19: Chapter 7 - Brags, Beats, and Variants

So in summary

  1. When you get the first shot you are still vulnerable. Not only is there a window to get infected still but it could be a serious case. (And FU Ron DeSantis)

  2. “100%” is a really tough standard. Shit Dove soap is only 99.97% pure. Given the numbers tested the real 100% is likely something in the 99.9% range. Maybe even 99.99 or 99.999 at preventing severe cases. Significant to those 1 in 10,000 or whatever but not society as a whole.

  3. The flip side is severe allergic reactions. Again very low incidence but EVERY SINGLE ONE WILL BE FEATURED ON THE NEWS because we as a people suck at math.

  4. Let’s give each other the benefit of the doubt, especially great posters like @WichitaDM. Christmas miracle that all involved talked it through over a dozen posts. We are all guilty at times of misinterpreting others (raises hand).

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Ya i meant the distribution should be a massive government push not Walgreens ffs.

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It is a massive government push though right now… right? My understanding is that you can only get vaccinated through some local government supply.

It’s not like people are paying for this vaccine in any type of market system afaik

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Spain has confirmed four cases of the more contagious coronavirus variant recently identified in the UK - the latest European country to do so.

The infections - all in Madrid - were linked to recent UK travel, the regional deputy health chief said.

France, Denmark, the Netherlands and Italy have also reported cases in the past few days.

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I posted this. In the study, they were looking at things that happened 7 days after the second dose, so not your friend’s situation. I hope she has a full and quick recovery. :(

So, my wife is planning to take the kids to visit her parents next week. They’re pretty careful in general, but, for some reason, they’ve both scheduled doctor’s appointments for Wednesday. In the worst case where they got pozzed at these appointments,how soon do the wife and kids need to leave to avoid a risk of being infected? 24 hours seems pretty safe, I think. Would people be comfortable stretching it to 48?

Problem solved:

You may now return to your restauranting, barflying, womanizing and other filthy activities.

The impression I get (I’m in LA but not connected to any medical folks in hospitals) is that the sheer numbers are staggering. What procedures would need drastic change? It sounds like they’re already turning people away who aren’t critical, but doesn’t that require triaging them first? I think that’s where the bottleneck is.

As I’ve posted, I’m in Los Angeles in an area with very high COVID rates. This Tuesday I have an appointment with a cardiologist to talk about a little heart “episode” I had on November 22. On that day I had a very elevated heartrate for about 10 hours and my Apple Watch was reporting atrial fibrillation. On November 23 I saw my primary care doctor and he told me 1) I should have gone to the ER on November 22 and 2) I should follow up with a cardiologist. But, he told me it was OK to continue my exercise routine. So, since November 23 I’ve run 5 miles almost every day and have had zero heart issues at all.

Anybody think I should cancel the cardiologist appt until things settle down in LA? Realizing that could be months of course.

Post from my nurse friend in LA. She is staying at home but has lots of friends still working

Word on the street from fellow RNs at nearby hospitals… RNs are having to take extra patients (instead of 4-5, they have 7-8 – totally unsafe), they are running out of body bags, high-flow nasal cannulas (oxygen nasal tubes), and they’re having 4-6 code blues per day (normally you’d have that amount in 2-3 weeks).
Still seeing the surge from Thanksgiving.
Please don’t make January even worse, by gathering for Christmas.
Negative tests aren’t fool-proof, and you can be exposed but still show negative for 5-7 days.
Zero ICU beds in LA County.
Some hospitals in SoCal are at 200% capacity of total beds, so patients are being treated in hallways.
Yes, this sucks to not see loved ones on Christmas. But let’s do everything we can to ensure our loved ones get through January.
Much love y’all.

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Cardiologist have their own office, or is it at a hospital? I would go in the former case and skip the latter.

I’m not sure why you should go with anything other than what your doctor would say in response to this question.

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Medical building attached to a hospital.

Well where’s the fun in that? I want strangers on the internet to determine my course of treatment!

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We make fun of covidiots for trusting opinions found from randos on the internet more than the advice of medical experts.

Your basic cost-benefit analysis involves the probability of a negative outcome such as stroke or heart failure if your atrial fibrillation is a sign of something that needs treatment vs the probability of a severe case of COVID if you go to a doctor’s office where, presumably, reasonable precautions are being taken. The same comorbid conditions that make COVID more dangerous probably also make heart issues more dangerous.

I’m not qualified to evaluate that, but it’s certainly possible that the probability of dying of something heart-related if you don’t go is higher than your probability of dying of COVID if you do go. Do you believe that asking strangers on the internet will enable you to be better than your doctor at evaluating the variables for this decision?

Found out last night that my SIL’s husband is coming down sick. Not sure if cold or covid yet, but he was feeling bad enough to not even want to say hi on Zoom, so, uh, yeah. And oh, by the way, everyone but him attended in person Christmas eve mass, and my SIL couldn’t believe how few people were there! So yeah, good chance they pozzed that whole congregation.

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https://twitter.com/queenofironyRN/status/1342716692326088705

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Don’t fuck around with the possible heart issue and I don’t think it’s even close.

I wouldn’t be worried about them being contagious within 48 hours

Another COVID scare close to home. My friend runs a salon, and has been super worried about a salon assistant pozzing all year.

Well, an assistant had been to a party Saturday, worked Monday and Tuesday, and started feeling bad and coughing over the course of her shift Tuesday. She said multiple/most friends from the same party all fell sick by Wednesday. Positive test result back Christmas Eve. Now my friend is exposed, had to notify a huge number of clients on Christmas Eve that they had been exposed (some of these fuckers went so far as to question the salon’s handling/decisions, when they’re actually quite disciplined about masking and it’s the customers who were desperate for hairdos before Xmas and who have bullied the salon about their social distance and mask policies since day fucking 1).

Just goes to show there is no way of being truly safe and open for business in the real world, imo. Really hope this isn’t a big superspreader thing over christmas, but the timeline is very not great.

How many of you live in a state which has launched an exposure notification app and how many of you are using it?

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