So you mean if you are already infected when you receive the vaccine. That’s what I was missing. Thanks.
No, I mean that get the vaccine, then get infected. You then produce antibodies that suppress the virus quickly enough that you won’t get tested, so won’t show up in the study. However, enough of the virus is produced to infect someone else.
Remember that people are infectious a few days before they show symptoms. If the vaccine lets you get to those days but not further, that would be a problem.
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Ah. Gotcha. To my knowledge no other vaccine works this way but we are plowing fresh snow.
So get vaccine.
Later get exposed to virus
Even with immunity from vaccine, the virus gets enough of a threshold to multiply to shed as asymptomatic.
Gotta think that probability is pretty damn low.
I guess, but based on all the shit that has already gone on, I can understand every public health official who wants to be extra careful.
Yes.
There is no reason to suspect that this is possible in any significant way, as it would completely undermine our understanding of basic germ theory
I have those same exact steam radiators in my house and I am several hours outside of NYC. They’re all over the northeast in pretty much every pre-war building that hasn’t had a major heating system renovation. I’d guess they’re pretty common in buildings from that era in midwest too.
Now that I think about it, most of the older buildings at UT Austin have (or at least had) steam radiators too.
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One of the tweets says they were for TB.
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It happens with chickenpox…
Chickenpox (Varicella) Transmission | CDC.
“If a vaccinated person gets the disease, they can still spread it to others.”
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Wow. Call me ignorant.
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Massachusetts governor got super serious about this pandemic thing today and rolled back occupancy limits at gyms, libraries and museums from 50% all the way to 40%. I reckon that oughta take care of any problems. We should be right as rain by, idk, Friday? Sunday at the absolute latest.
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Woof, bud, this means people who get ill from chickenpox despite being vaccinated can spread the disease. That’s not what is being discussed here
Did u need a key to bleed it like the ones I gre up with?
Happy Holidays!
Plenty of pear reviewed papers saying the virus can’t survive any occupancy rate below 42.3%.
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I think it can be read either way. How about this (re: whooping cough)
"In the 1950s, highly successful vaccines based on inactivated pertussis cells (the bacteria that causes whooping cough) drove infection rates in the U.S. below one case per 100,000 people. But adverse side effects of those vaccines led to the development and introduction in the 1990s of acellular pertussis vaccines, which use just a handful of the bacteria’s proteins and bypass most of the side effects. (Currently given to children as part of the Tdap vaccine.)
The problem is, the newer vaccines might not block transmission. A January 2014 study in PNAS by another research team demonstrated that giving baboons acellular pertussis vaccines prevented them from developing symptoms of whooping cough but failed to stop transmission.
Building on that result, Althouse and Scarpino used whopping cough case counts from the CDC, genomic data on the pertussis bacteria, and a detailed epidemiological model of whooping cough transmission to conclude that acellular vaccines may well have contributed to – even exacerbated – the recent pertussis outbreak by allowing infected individuals without symptoms to unknowingly spread pertussis multiple times in their lifetimes."
And:
"Public health experts cannot rely on herd immunity to protect people from pertussis since:
- Pertussis spreads so easily
- Vaccine protection decreases over time
- Acellular pertussis vaccines may not prevent colonization (carrying the bacteria in your body without getting sick) or spread of the bacteria"
For those of you that think you may miss FB. I see 10-15 of these a day in the wonderful State of SC🌚
My building in Long Beach (CA) was built in the 20s and I have one.
Mind fuck alert, we’re in the 20s
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