COVID-19: Chapter 6 - ThanksGRAVING

I’m sorry you had to be put in that position and wish for an easy recovery for you and yours.

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It appears possible my boss who came to work sick pozzed another employee. The guy he exposed developed symptoms on day 10 since contact with the boss and got Covid confirmation today. His wife had surgery the day after he became symptomatic.

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Haven’t been following much - do we have any feedback yet from number of Thanksgiving weekend infections?

Well that explains it.

Basically we won’t know until we get past

1 7 days past the dip
2 probably a couple days after the catch-up from the dip.

Here is a blow up of cases from world o meters. I’d just say so far it’s looking like the slope is catching up to a more smooth continuation of before Tday. Also would need to try and look at %positive increase as I think we are collectively concerned that testing is getting limiting which will suppress the growth rate.

I think we can safely infer there has been no plateau or even a slow down. Only thing to see if there is a speed up.

Meanwhile in Flor-i-duh

https://twitter.com/annaforflorida/status/1335401201198829568?s=21

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Looks like national positivity 7 day leveled off over the holiday but is heading north again. Just over 10%. Should be safe to assume that the 7 day case rate is being suppressed by increasing amount due to limiting testing.

So if the growth is 2% then the real growth is probably 2.5-3% as an estimate.

I have put this into graphical representation.

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Pretty good site based on science.

http://arctic.som.ou.edu/tburg/products/covid19/

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Hi, I’m Scott Hanson, bringing you Quad Pozzed. Your two weeks of uninterrupted suffering starts…right now!

Not sure if ponies but what in the absolute fuck. I feel terrible for these minks. Also apparently a fuckton of these minks showed up in Spain with a new strain of covid apparently completely resistant to all our new vaccines. I’ll try to find the link

Fuuuuuuuuuuck.

There were seven different strains in minks with mutations in the spike protein, one had four mutations in the spike protein.

This has to be a really bad sign for when we get the vaccine right? It’ll be under pressure to mutate then and apparently the spike protein can mutate.

This makes it sound like vaccines will be a temporary reprieve and this thing is here to stay and will just keep mutating.

Any one with more scientific knowledge have any good news here? Please tell me I’m totally off base.

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I guess the hope would be that since the spike protein is how it attaches to our cells, any mutation to the spike protein would render it less transmissible. 12 people in Denmark got that strain and it doesn’t seem to have led to a massive outbreak. So that’s good, I guess.

If vaccines fails because of mutations, though, it’s a wrap. All shutdowns are done, all occupancy restrictions are done, mask compliance will go to like 25% and however many people die a year from it will be the new normal with life expectancy dipping substantially. Pretty gruesome if we head down that path.

https://mobile.twitter.com/sebastian_lk/status/1335197468468932608

Rough thread

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Yea my friend basically says the same thing except she first got sick in September. Calls it having brain fog. Has 5 degrees so she isn’t some Karen dope whining.

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I think we all kind of know there are a lot of likely to semi-likely to possible outcomes that are horrible we still have to fade:

-Morons refusing to take the vaccine.
-Production and distribution issues which make it basically impossible to vaccinate enough people in a timely manner to end this in 2021.
-The vaccine not providing long lasting immunity.
-The virus being able to mutate enough to mean the vaccine isn’t the endgame and this ends up being a permanent illness that we deal with.
-Especially with these MRNA vaccines that have literally never been used some longer term negative side effects that we don’t know about yet because we have not reached the long term.
-Long term side effects from the virus itself that will affect 40-50% of the worlds population before we can get enough people vaccinated to end it.
-Political turmoil and increasing unrest as the DO SOMETHING and the MAH FREEDOMS crowd both get more and more upset if this thing does not end in 2021.
-The potential economic consequences of a massive government debt/printing bubble.

That is not really a comprehensive list and I think some of those things are more likely to occur than others but we need to win like 10 80/20 flips for this thing to actually end in 2021.

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So I have Silicon Valley VC types on my Twitter feed still arguing for the “Sweden Model.”

Has this been totally debunked by now or is there any merit at all to just going full helter skelter herd immunity?

And if this is really “working” in Sweden, why is there no evidence that herd immunity is being achieved in the U.S., where infections are highest in the world?

Its been debunked about 100 times over.

They have been worse at everything than their neighbors and are no closer to “herd immunity” (this isn’t a thing fwiw).

Herd immunity is just a thing for people who don’t want to be inconvenienced to say they have a strategy. Its the “going all in blind” poker strategy adopted for viruses. It has no chance of long term success.

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Isn’t thst a good thing for the Trump cultists? Sounds like Handmaids Tale to me, AKA the American Conservative wet dream.

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I could get behind a draft that requires a year of public service. Some huge root causes of American problems are a) people hate the government without actually knowing what it does and b) never meeting people that are different than them.

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