Their lockdown has been objectively successful.
Look at their case numbers and deaths compared to their population.
We may not go for that hardcore of lockdowns, but hard lockdowns like that do work and are working.
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Had to jump in here to say that I bumped into Noted anti masker heritagenothate in public, he was putting on a mask as he went into the gas station.
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He has to, right? I imagine even shithole Alabama has a mask rule for inside locations like gas stations
Their lockdown may indeed be more successful, but the case numbers coming from China are a fiction.
I agree they murdered the doctors, mortality rate is under 2% early on, odds the doctor whistleblower was murdered vs succumbed to virus is high
They aren’t that far off
I mean we are undercounting deaths by 59% and I’m sure they are by some amount also but not enough to make a difference in the conclusion
Lockdowns, social distancing and masks work
It shouldn’t be controversial and shouldn’t be a shocker that a country that did those things is doing much much better than us
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To be clear I’m not saying China is some pinnacle of anything. Im just saying the rhetoric that some seem to be suddenly posting that China “unleashed” the virus is literal Trump propaganda. Period.
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Umm I guess, we have a mask ordinance and most people do, that’s like my main gas station and I see people unmasked in there plenty. I moreso thought it funny just because he swore up and down he wouldn’t wear one period cuz I remember giving him shit when Walmart required masks and he was like nah I’m not wearing one, cuz I told him to send me a video of him going in without it.
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The plague originated from china (edit) due to china’s recklessness, who initially covered it up, and then failed to contain it from spreading it to the rest of the world in massive numbers. The truth is the truth, regardless of Trump’s position on the matter.
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I’m not aware of anyone arguing that these things don’t work. My issue has been minimizing China’s dishonesty and utter failures early on in this pandemic.
Are those in dispute? What does recognizing them get us now? Are you delusional enough to think the US , in the exact situation would have fared better? Obviously not. We fared exponentially worse even with advance warning.
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Are you asking why there isn’t a crocaduck? Or are you referring to punctuated equilibrium? I’ll agree that viruses mutate and reproduce in much faster time than say, zebras. Nevertheless, it makes more sense to me that this virus is manmade and created in a lab. That’s not a theory, nor have I stated there is any evidence to back up my claim. I don’t look at it as an argument from ignorance either. This is one fucked up virus and I don’t think it just popped up out of nature. Just my opinion. I can easily be persuaded otherwise and I realize the burden of proof is on me for which I have none. But I’d wager on it
Didn’t WHO also have some very misleading information in the beginning?
This conversation started because I said that China’s success came with a level of lockdown that I don’t think many people would be ok with here. Catastrophe (the poster), then called China’s lockdown successful, so I would say that it is in dispute. I find that a little ridiculous considering they did far from a good job early and the disease is global now. If they meant that after the initial months, I wouldn’t have a disagreement. As a whole? You can’t ignore the results of their failures imo.
It’s hard to see why you keep bringing up ‘but what about the USA’? It’s utterly irrelevant to this conversation.
Despite your assertions to the contrary, other countries have done a really good job on the virus. China’s initial response was a disaster, combine that with the virus happened because China refuses to handle their wet markets properly. It was not inevitable that this happened. I suppose that could be a thing we just disagree on, as neither of us have hard facts about the matter obviously. I feel pretty damn strong the other way obviously.
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Probably. There was a lot of misleading info at the beginning. I remember Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta telling everyone that wearing masks wouldn’t help.
Your argument is LITERALLY one from ignorance
You are ignorant on biology and everything related to this topic yet you “feel” that it’s man-made against all of the scientists who studied it.
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Lol ok dude
I get the sense that this is more something that you feel in your gut. I just want to explore how you form that instinct.
I could say, for example, that some people want to believe in a just universe, so they want to believe that COVID is the fault of someone, because they don’t want to believe in random bad things.
83k for a saturday
https://twitter.com/COVID19Tracking/status/1320128199230062592
Good god.
Is 200k per day on the table in a couple weeks?
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The next spike is upon us.
It’ll only go up week-over-week from here assuming proper testing.
Buckle up because this is gonna be a bad winter.
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