It’s been really interesting following the Czech Republic’s progression. For a long time they seemed out of the woods. Now the rates are horrifying, and it seems like exactly where all the other northern climates are going.
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Option (A) is never happening until we have a vaccine. You are refusing to consider option (B) unless an ideal but impossible option (A) occurs.
Everyone here agrees the best option would be to get the virus under control first. That isn’t going to happen. We’re in a situation with only bad options and you are looking backwards pretending that we still have a good option available. We don’t. We already decided in favor of STONKS and endless breadsticks.
I think some of the disagreement here is about where we stand. My view is that we already fucked up and given that, we now have to choose between closing schools and damaging child development or opening schools and further spreading the virus. I don’t see that as a false choice but the reality. You seem to want to go back and talk about the breadsticks again which, yeah, I would love to do as well. I don’t see that as a possibility.
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My otherwise-healthy kid brought home some kind of nasty bug from preschool through last year, every year, without exception, within two weeks of school starting. Glad to know I was imagining all of that!
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The classic GOP tactic: fuck it up really bad so the toothpaste is out of the tube, smear it all over the floor, and laugh at the Democrats attempts to clean it up.
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There are countries in the world that have contained this without a vaccine. If the assumption is that we are never going to do anything to contain the virus then sure, open up schools, who gives a fuck? We’re headed for herd immunity anyway.
Everyone arguing to close schools has very good ideas about what it would take to contain the virus and save the people economically.
Number of deaths from covid in the Czech Republic
In the last two and half days: 126
The month of June, July and August combined: 112
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If it’s even a thing.
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“herd immunity”
a large swath of the population will avoid any sort of upper respiratory ailments with their entire upper half buried in sand
another swath won’t suffer any sort of respiratory ailments at all because their entire body is made of brains
Thanks Suzzer. I’ll move that email into spam now.
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Small sample size - I have 4 that have been OFS for 7 weeks now and not a sniffle.
How many years does pre-school last in USA#1? You might be imagining it if your sample is 1 kid x 2 weeks at start of 2 pre-school years
My sample size seems to be the same as the study you are citing, 1
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Yup
Choose one: Bars or our kids
Apparently a lot of Homer Simpsons out there
Yah, 1 study of 11,000 kids vs 1x Mom of one kid who’s been to pre-school for 2 years
Not my study, this guys
Professor Calum Semple has studied severe virus disease outbreaks since 1989 in the fields of diagnostics, clinical characterization and clinical trials. He was a founder member of ISARIC. He has led studies of COVID-19, MERS, Monkeypox, Ebola (EVD and Survivors), Influenza and Bronchiolitis, at times field-deployed in austere circumstances.
Professor Semple came to Liverpool in 1999 after training in London and Oxford. His doctoral research was in clinical virology and funded by an MRC - Burroughs Wellcome Industrial Fellowship. He was converted to paediatrics by inspiring clinical teachers at Oxford and later persuaded to sub-specialise with the renowned respiratory team at Alder Hey Children’s Hospital.
Exactly. By the time we can infect 70% of people their immunity may have started wearing off, constantly keeping us below herd immunity level.
So just tons of deaths and disabilities without the benefit.
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On the other hand, after a few years of that people might finally start to… Oh hey @Narrator what’s up? You’re here for me? I didn’t even finish the sentence. I was going to say, “might finally start to get used to 1-2M deaths a year.”
Oh you’re here to tell me they’ll be used to that in 2021 anyway? Well, fuck, then.
We could have easily done A if we had any national leadership. Ooooh trump is a moron so we should just give up and do something stupid to compound things.
It’s. Not. That. Hard.
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At this point the political fracturing seems deep enough that a democratic president won’t be able to undo the idiocy of red states
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Setup the guidelines. Any state the opts out can expect a travel ban from other states.
In other news, the committee has become aware of a new WINNAR:
33yr old who looks quite fit, but don’t worry it’s just the flu
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