COVID-19: Chapter 5 - BACK TO SCHOOL

Yes, I’m pretty sure asymptomatic people can spread this, though probably not as effectively as symptomatic people.

Well, I’d rather watch Sesame Street than do a Zoom meeting!

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Seinfeld’s right. The whole sky is falling of whoever the hell the guy on LinkedIn is is bullshit. Cities and places evolve and change with the times.

That said, who gives a shit if New York isn’t the center of everything? Good riddance. New York is for tourists and rich people. If you aren’t one of them, then of course you’re going to hate paying $2K/month for a bedroom in a flat shared with 5 other people. You can’t enjoy the culture if you can barely afford it.

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Meanwhile, in Ohio:

https://twitter.com/tylerjoelb/status/1297936557538791424?s=21

What do they think this even means?

You take precautions until there is herd immunity or you just go yolo and don’t take precautions.

Does she want to volunteer herself to be part of the 60-70% that get covid for herd immunity?

Some things are dangerous, ergo, nothing is dangerous.

The alternative is socialism though

NYC is probably going to change pretty drastically. Everywhere is. The linkedin guy is right about the impact of telework. I’ve been doing it for right at five years now and I can promise you I’ll never work face to face again.

This is why we just do the god damn socialism. All of it. Everyone we run gets compared with Bernie and AOC anyway, just put them in there and enact AOC and Bernie policies. You have literally nothing to lose, and good policies to gain!

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/24/what-does-it-mean-that-most-republicans-see-coronavirus-death-toll-acceptable/

When the ball in Times Square began dropping on Dec. 31, 2019 — the day on which the novel coronavirus first came to international attention — there were a bit over 330 million people living in the United States. Over the eight-plus months since, one out of every 1,900 of those people has died of covid-19, the disease the virus causes.

By early November, researchers from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington estimate that an additional 50,000 to 120,000 people will have died of covid-19, bringing the death toll to somewhere between 225,000 and nearly 300,000 people — or as many as 1 in 1,111 Americans.

About 3 in 10 Americans think the number of deaths from the coronavirus so far is acceptable. That includes 1 in 10 Democrats and a majority of Republicans.

Trump himself repeatedly boasted that the number of coronavirus deaths wouldn’t be anywhere near the benchmark his team set in March. Week after week in April and May, he’d proclaim that the death toll would not expand much past where it was, and, week after week, he was proved wrong. There was no consideration of how the recorded death toll captures only a portion of the total mortality, just a constant shift of the goal posts.

Earlier, we noted that acceptance of the death toll among most Republicans is likely a function of both skepticism about that number and support for the president. Those things co-mingle, with the latter driving the former. If you support Trump and accept his presentation of facts, there must be a reason that things aren’t as bad as they seem. So it becomes much easier for people such as Mitchell or Fox News’s Laura Ingraham to question the data than the president.

Unexplored in that CBS poll result are those 4 in 10 Republicans who see the death toll as un acceptable. Some portion of that group likely blames people besides Trump for the number of deaths: state governors, for example, or other government officials. (Republicans are far more likely than Democrats to not approve of the job done by the government’s chief infectious-disease expert, Anthony S. Fauci.)

In other words, for most Republicans, there isn’t a line in the sand past which the death toll is too high — just as, for many Democrats, there may not have been a line at which they would have said Trump was doing a good job. It’s a microcosm of Trump’s presidency, really. Trump supporters have regularly been asked to reject or to wave away questions about his tweets or his actions or his comments or other new negative developments. Grimly enough, the death toll of the virus is simply another thing in that swollen universe. Much of Trump’s base, like him, is simply hoping that things don’t get much worse.

Calling someone a socialist is more effective when they are actually a socialist.

I assume it’s a total lack of understanding of what herd immunity is. It’s a phrase she heard that justifies her continuing to live the way she did before. She must have encountered some checks on this by now, in the form of mask requirements at least but I’m not up to date on her views.

The spin I see via FB is “the virus will only go away once we have Herd Immunity. Most young people won’t get really sick, so they SHOULD be out there getting sick in order to develop the herd immunity needed to protect more vulnerable populations.” I’ve read takes truly cheering on the partying college students because they think it’s helping us get over Covid.

England with resident population of ~55m, and one of the UK#1 death rates in the world (35-45k), has recently reported an estimated 6% of population has had the virus based on sample size of 100k.

So, if USA death rates are to be believed (ermm) you might be near 6% of the way to herd immunity (60-70%, assuming you can’t catch it twice)

Manhattan isn’t New York.

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OMG, this impeachment might even pass because the GOP has a supermajority. Republicans eat their own.

Candice Keller is the one who made stupid comments a while back about the Dayton shooting.

Start querying people’s thoughts on this administration’s forced child separation policy. Make it clear to your audience that the policy was unequivocal state sanctioned torture of children. Make it clear that a few less immigrants, or a few less percent on one’s tax bill, or whatever systemic policy difference Joe Biden will enact is inconsequential in comparison to voting to maintain power with people who would enact torture as state policy. If your audience is not moved, tell them to get fucked. If one is given a chance to reflect on the reality of the ghoulishness of this administration and is unmoved, he/she is a pig at heart. End the relationship.

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“Obama started it.”

The kids in cages pictures many people use as “Obama did it too” were from kids who had traveled across the border alone. Forced separation was not a policy of the Obama admin. if I am not mistaken

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I know. But you get nowhere with these people is my point. I’ve banged my head against the wall trying the last 3.5 years.

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I’ve also spent more time than I care to admit trying to convert different types of right wingers, and mostly gotten nowhere. My girlfriend really likes a couple of my cousins and their parents and was just flabbergasted when I explained that they’re all probably going to vote for trump. Sure, they’re “good people” and all, but you can’t count on them.

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