Maybe not at your hospital, but there were numerous reports from reputable media outlets about overflowing ERs and ICUs, and people being told that and sent home, only to die within a few days. If your argument is that they should have come back again, maybe they weren’t given good directions, I don’t know? Maybe they should have been sent home with a pulse ox and they didn’t have enough?
Dude I literally worked at elmhurst during the peak. Probably worst hit hospital in the USA, maybe the world. I worked at two other hospitals around then too. I don’t think you’re understanding what those articles were saying. The cutoff then and now is essentially the same, do you need O2?
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To try to wind this up, Cuse believes the patients were lied to about the need for treatment, based on guesses and media reports of overcrowding.
Let me just say how awesome it it that someone from that situation hangs here. For those who don’t know, Elmhurst was the absolute epicenter of the NYC outbreak. It’s the main public hospital in Queens and emptied out 100% of it’s non COVID patients to make room. And they needed it. Probably the most famous refrigerator truck scene was there.
Would that be the cutoff with half the beds in the hospital/ER/ICU open? Like there were people in hallways waiting for beds, and there were people sent home who died a couple days later. In some places they’ve sent people home with pulse oximeters and told them to call if it drops below 93 or something. Was that done in NYC?
I mean I read an article from a respectable media outlet that quoted a veteran NYC paramedic saying as much. He said they routinely were called out to people who coded who had been sent home who should not have been, were there enough room.
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I can describe a hell to you. We had patients in the hallway. We had massive areas overrun with beds. We had patients in chairs getting oxygen. It was an utter shitshow. No one got discharged who needed oxygen.
Medics are not qualified to make that statement. I doubt they said it as well.
Ok I was wrong, I conflated a couple articles I think. The paramedic had seen people who were turned away but he didn’t say they shouldn’t have been (he didn’t say either way).
But this article tells of someone being turned away who it doesn’t seem should have been.
At the end of the day, if there are open beds and people are being turned away and dying at home a few days later, something is going tragically wrong with the decision making on admissions, the communications with the patient on what would necessitate a return, or both. Even if they aren’t being actively treated for the COVID-19, they could be monitored regularly and treated as soon as needed - one way or another. They clearly didn’t happen for a fairly significant number of people.
As predicted, that article shows you didn’t understand what was going on. He wasn’t sick enough the first time and he left on his own the other time. That’s not at all what you said happened.
Hell reading between the lines I’m guessing he was seen seen in the ER he just had to stay there until he went upstairs.
Fairly interesting article about the problems with pool testing. Two states where I have very big question marks are using this (Virginia, Massachusetts). This also might explain some issues with California but not at the level of those other two.
This article is comforting:
The headline is just very misleading. In the article he said:
arguing it’s “very dangerous” if people believe the coverings alone will stop the spread of the coronavirus.
That means something completely different than the headline would suggest.
Sure it’s misleading but he’s still being a galactically stupid fuckhead so fuck him.
Interestingly my favorite beer place in Toronto just reopened and prominently mentions their ventilation system in the notice:
With 7,000 square feet of space, we are able to offer more than six feet of space between tables. We are equipped with a highly efficient ventilation system that brings in 3,000 cubic feet of fresh air per minute, so there’s no need to worry about recirculated air.
Update.
Mrs Rugbys aunt is now in a hospital.
It took two days with the entire family calling in every connection at every level. I had an old rugby mates mum phoning her alumni network.
Finally a tenuous connection to a local politician got a bed opened up.
An entire country that runs on nepotism. Needing to pull strings to stay alive and get a healthcare.
Relieved but man. Wtf.
Edit. The cousin is isolating at home on his own. But seems to be okay.
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I believe we reviewed the math on pooled testing itt about 2 months ago.
If a high fraction of the pools are positive you’ve done nothing but delay testing everyone individually.
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100% this. Lets not get caught up in semantics.
No where is anyone advocating to both mask up and go back to large crowds
His argument is the same one that says to make football safer they should go without helmets to discourage leading with the head cause no helmet is 100%!concussion proof.
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Ah yes the world conservatives want to return us to. It’s always about them getting something someone else can’t. Always.
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This one makes me want to puke. Please read the whole thing.
Reeves belongs in jail.
Minutes after Reeves announced he would allow schools to reopen on time, State Health Officer Dr. Thomas Dobbs, sitting next to Reeves in a live press conference, said of reopening schools: “I think it’s nuts.”
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Yes so opening schools is a disaster, which we all knew it would be. Might want to start modeling the inevitable spike and higher plateau.
Which beer place?
edit: nvm I googled your exact post. C’est What is pretty great, my wife and I had our first date there.
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It’s just too depressing to crank the infection rate up again.
I did tickle the 28 day cfr down to 2% from 3% beginning July 1.
But yeah maybe I need to toss in a month of some growth rate.
wat
Teachers in Mississippi — the lowest paid in the nation on average — sign annual contracts that include broad termination clauses, and many districts disallow teachers to speak directly with journalists without permission from district offices. For these reasons, the teachers cited or quoted in this article are not named.
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