My wife and I have gotten takeout a few times since mid-June or so and had the same experience, the food we used to get weekly was just OK and the cost seemed outrageous compared to cooking at home for like $3. Really seems like restaurants are going to have a hard time post-COVID even if everyone can get vaccinated and feel safe.
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Against my strong objections I had to go to the mall today for first time since this all started. Can someone propose a reason they have restricted entry and exit to one entrance? There is no control
at it (eg temp check) so that can’t be it.
It seems like this significantly reduces social distancing.
My main form of pre-COVID exercise was swimming. Anything I can do on my feet tends to lead to sore knees and occasional bouts of what is probably plantar fasciitis. My local YMCA, which I have been paying despite not doing anything since March, currently requires masks everywhere indoors except when showering or in the pool. I think literally the pool and not just the pool area.
Would you feel safe exercising under those conditions? Higher humidity may reduce the risk of infection. Although COVID-19 is not the flu, higher humidity is know to protect against flu outbreaks.
If we had solid contact tracing so that any outbreak related to a location would be noticed, I would feel okay if we went a month without any pool-related outbreaks, but we don’t have that…
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Limiting the number of entrances allows them to more easily control the level of occupancy. They wouldn’t be able to tell how many people are inside if they had all entrances open.
But there was no control at the entrance. Nobody counting or checking.
I wouldn’t feel 100% safe, but if the options are do this or don’t exercise at all, I’d probably risk the swimming pool. Shower on your own before/after if that’s an option.
My opinion also might change depending on personal risk factors and local infection levels.
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Maybe reading, or packing stuff slowly but surely for the move. I’d like to take a hike now and then but the trail I like gets pretty crowded. Maybe I should try it mid-week.
Thanks, yeah I was already the type who was disappointed not to be married yet with kids. My friends with wives and kids seem to be coping way better overall.
Thanks… I’m really hoping it’s stress. Sleep has been a struggle for me for like 10 years, I’ve tried damn near everything. I typically can’t fall asleep, but when I’m stressed or have anxiety I’ll wake up 3-4 hours earlier than planned and struggle to fall back asleep. I’m going to look into getting a medical marijuana card for anxiety this week. I experimented a bit in Vegas with indica edibles and they seemed to help me sleep quite a bit. But there’s also a hangover effect, so it’s a trade-off.
I deleted it from my phone and appreciated waking up today without notifications. Maybe I’ll take the plunge, or do a mass unfollow.
Thanks. Maybe I’ll put a note on the mirror that says something like “Hundreds of thousands of the smartest scientists in the world are working on vaccines and cures today with hundreds of billions of dollars in funding. They are one day closer.”
I do feel like my reactions are normal. I got really depressed about 6 months after graduating college and went to a therapist, who told me I was depressed. I was worried about the diagnosis. He goes “So to get this straight, your first love just broke up with you, you’re working 80 hours a week for less than minimum wage (yay broadcasting), you moved to a new town where you don’t know anybody and don’t have time to meet anybody? I’d be worried about you if you WEREN’T depressed.”
I added alcohol back in a couple days ago but only one drink a night, attempting to just aid in slight relaxation. I’m proud of myself for not getting rip roaring drunk so far, not even having a couple. Frankly I’m scared of what I’d do and I know it won’t fix anything. So I guess that’s a good sign that I’m still thinking that way.
Thanks. It’s been reassuring to have a few people tell me the cognitive issues could just be from stress. One thing is that when maintenance comes in I move everything from my countertops into my office with the weights, which means a few days of no weightlifting. When they keep coming every week it’s a cycle of moving it there and moving it back, and the anxiety doesn’t make me feel like working out even though I need to. Getting back into that might help. Golf I can continue although apparently not this week due to weather. Maybe adding hiking is the move. I think outdoors and moving is key.
I’ve tried this in the past and not been good at it. Maybe I’ll do more researcy and try again. Thanks!
Thanks, yeah I notice a difference just from not waking up to a CNN alert about the latest bad news and 3 FB notifications that lead me to see a few hot take statuses.
Well that brings new meaning to “fuck the news.” But yeah I let this thread pile up like 800 new posts and skimmed and it was way less depressing because I wasn’t reading and processing every little bit so intensely, but of course I’m still seeing the studies and key stuff posted.
What app? Thanks, I dunno about all that but in USA#1 we’re damn near national treasures for believing in science lol…
Maybe I’ll switch over there. I realized this morning that posting this in here meant I had to read this thread to see the replies lol whoops. It started as kind of a “Should I get a test?” post and then I just unloaded it all. The Vegas thing Slavitt posted about how they don’t care cause they are exporting most cases just made me snap. Didn’t surprise me at all but reading it pushed me over the edge, hence why it happened last night.
Yeah obviously I’m not special in this way but most things I enjoy or get fulfillment from are gone for a while. I’m scared for the winter when golf is gone, too. As a single 34 year old only child who lives alone, winter is going to mean 3-4 months of total isolation. I’m hoping my parents quarantine fully before Thanksgiving and before Christmas. But otherwise it’ll just be a long haul. For now I just need to get to that point.
Thanks, I hope they are but I’m not very convinced.
Two movies I would recommend for good time fun/upliftingness:
Palm Springs on Hulu and The Speed Cubers on Netflix.
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Find a lake to swim in instead. As a bonus you’ll likely be immersed in significantly less human piss
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Were the entrance and exit at the same location? One other thing they might do is separate where you can go in and where you can go out to discourage two-way traffic. Or they want the ability to easily shut down traffic temporarily.
Maybe they are counting, but not right at the door.
People aren’t afraid of poor people suing in the US. Lawyers cost money. Poor people can’t pay lawyers.
Generally true, but class action lawsuits are the exception.
True, but even then, you need somebody at least semi-competent of the law to get a class action suit started.
Would this help?
That’s really reassuring. Like I’m not happy that people are dealing with what I’m dealing with as far as stess on a widespread basis, but at the same time it does help to know I’m not alone and it is most likely “just” stress.
I may re-read The Upside of Stress. It’s one of the most valuable books I’ve ever read. But when I read it I was focused on more acute competitive stress - like jumping up in stakes as a poker pro or going deep in a tournament. That book has undoubtedly been worth five figures to me. But I didn’t absorb the parts about this kind of stress as much because, well, why would I have?
It has also helped me a bit to remember that while this is a unique level of stress for Americans born after WWII, it’s not unique for billions of people currently living or basically anybody who lived before like 1945 who wasn’t a king.
I’m a big believer that a lot of human emotions are not about absolute situations but relative ones. Lose a $3,000 pot as a 2/5 pro and it’s a big deal. Lose one as a 10/25 pro and it’s not fun but it’s just another medium pot.
If you’re born into a good situation and your hopes/expectations match that, even some minor stuff can feel awful because relative to your situation it’s a big blow. This (pandemic and fascism) is taking a lot of us from like the top 1/10th of one percent of privileged and comfortable people in human history (even just being in the top 50% or so of Americans) to a far less comfortable, less certain and more dangerous existence. Before this I had very few thoughts of not living to like 75. Now I know not making 55-60 is legit in play if we don’t have lasting immunity. Before this being homeless at any point in life was like a .000001% risk for me. Now, five years out, I can’t say that. I have enough money and resources to be safe for a few years (unless the dollar collapses), which I know is a huge privilege right now and I’m not taking it for granted… But if my income dries up, and my parents pass (they’re 72 and 72), the clock starts ticking to where I’ll run out of money with no familial safety net.
I’ve leaned on my intelligence as my last line of defense when I panic about that stuff, so these cognitive symptoms freak me the fuck out in a way that is beyond words.
I know I’m still lucky in a ton of ways, so I don’t need the reminder from anyone that there are people in Africa, Latin America, parts of Asia who would laugh at me being stressed by my situation… I can intellectually understand that and feel empathy for them while still emotionally being a mess because, relatively speaking, this is a huge blow. But I’m working on adjusting my expectations and reframing my outlook accordingly.
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Welp, I just learned that I’m now 1-degree of separation away from a covid fatality. A friend’s 94yo grandmother went onward.
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Grunching and this isn’t what you asked. But if you are having those issues with feet and knees then you clearly have a bunch of messed up movement patterns. Generally these are fixable with time and effort. If you check in to the working out at home thread you would get some good advice.
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AZ has reasonably good data on its dashboard including deaths by gender, age group, and ethnicity. And while they have data for cases by zip code, they don’t have deaths by zip code for whatever reason.
Edit: I see now your question was about specific deaths and I’m not aware of any public data on that.
Maricopa County reported <1000 new cases today for the first time in 6 weeks. I’m not clear on what AZ is doing different or better than other hot spots. We have a county-wide mask mandate and compliance is 100% where I shop, but I can’t imagine that’s true throughout the county. I’m not really aware of any significant resistance by mask skeptics, but it seems more likely that we’d have more than our fair share than less. 
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