II know, lol lawbros and all, but the Supreme Court has already sorted it out:
Granted it’s states, not the fed government.
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The tweet he’s replying to is worrisome too
https://twitter.com/aslavitt/status/1278781826035789824?s=21
I’m too old for Davis. The only place I went to pre-covid is a Beer shop that also acts as a bar because I’m training to be a beer geek.
Report from red Texas. People confirmed ape shit over the Abbott mask mandate. Schadenfreude is a powerful drug. I know I shouldn’t take joy in other’s fears and misfortunes, but dayum, it feels good to be dog piling the Trumper/never maskers for a change. ITT, several posters have mentioned that Texas will have to enforce this policy and that’s spot on. To a person, local politicians do not support this, so enforcement will be the next flash point, IMO.
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Where are you hearing that? I heard Dr. Fauci say he’d settle for 70%, but I haven’t heard that there’s any consensus that 70% is a best case scenario. Seems like no one knows nearly enough to be at all certain how effective the vaccines will be.
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Meanwhile in Ohio, looks like the armed protestors have persuaded DeWine to flake out. Just learn to live with the virus, that’s what we’re all about now.
https://twitter.com/GovMikeDeWine/status/1278759260969676802?s=20
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9 days=test no good anymore
Very alarming Slavitt says 7.
Fauci was the original source for it, and then some article that agreed with Fauci, but I can’t seem to find it now.
The other day I heard 40-60 percent the vaccine works on you.
Our general inability to create cold vaccines leaves me pessimistic, but I don’t think there’s any kind of expert prediction about how well they’ll work. Seems like there was progress toward reliable SARS/MERS vaccines, but research on them stopped after these viruses flamed out.
Very reasonable. What I will add to this is what I learned from…man I can’t even remember where. But the issue in getting a vaccine so quickly isn’t a safety risk, it’s that it is a huge financial risk. Companies would go broke if they mass produce every possible vaccine and then they all fail. But the federal government is funding several promising vaccines so that we can begin mass producing them before we know if they’re usable.
This might be my brain injury talking, but I believe the federal program funding the vaccines is actually called Operation Warp Speed…
Here we go. I defer to the experts ITT if this has already been discussed 
The federal government is making investments in the necessary manufacturing capacity at its own risk, giving firms confidence that they can invest aggressively in development and allowing faster distribution of an eventual vaccine. Manufacturing capacity for selected candidates will be advanced while they are still in development, rather than scaled up after approval or authorization. Manufacturing capacity developed will be used for whatever vaccine is eventually successful, if possible given the nature of the successful product, regardless of which firms have developed the capacity.
Select actions to support OWS vaccine development so far include:
- March 30: HHS announced $456 million in funds for Johnson & Johnson’s candidate vaccine, with Phase 1 clinical trials set to begin this summer.
- April 16: HHS made
up to $483 million in support available for Moderna’s candidate vaccine, which began Phase 1 trials on March 16 and received a fast-track designation from FDA.
- May 21: HHS announced up to $1.2 billion in support for AstraZeneca’s candidate vaccine, developed in conjunction with the University of Oxford. The agreement is to make available at least 300 million doses of the vaccine for the United States, with the first doses delivered as early as October 2020 and Phase 3 clinical studies beginning this summer with approximately 30,000 volunteers in the United States.
Congress has directed almost $10 billion to this effort through supplemental funding, including the CARES Act. Congress has also appropriated other flexible funding. The almost $10 billion specifically directed includes more than $6.5 billion designated for countermeasure development through BARDA and $3 billion for NIH research.
Wife and I are putting our little lady back in daycare on Monday. We’re nervous and def not comfortable, but we’re also about to be in a The Shining situation bc two full time jobs and watching a 22 month old full time has us at the breaking point, both from job performance and kid quality of life performance. Agree or disagree but wish us luck lol
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I had to put mine back in day care the second week of June.
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This is the American model for how to cover up hospital overrun. This is my post from a week ago:
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Yeah, I was referencing it sarcastically. That’s Trump’s name for it.
That makes sense.
Sounds like you guys feel like you don’t have much choice, and you’ve done the best you can. Good luck, hopefully it works out and she stays healthy!
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Thanks for posting this. I’m not a scientist, but I have two little kids and not having daycare or grandparents’ support (we are isolating from them because they refuse to stop going to work, stores, etc), I read it fairly closely. *ETA not the footnotes.
They look at a grouping in Switzerland, where they found that 8% of the households had what looks like kids giving it to adults (based on symptom chronology). Right of the bat, there is cause for concern. In the other houses, they found that the kids exhibited symptoms “after or concurrent with” the adults. So we have kids infecting adults & adults infecting kids, and the good news is that it looks like usually the adults catch it first.
This analysis is replicated using data from China, showing that most commonly adults give it to kids, and kids only sometimes give it to adults.
Importantly, for me, neither of these show me what I want to see - that adults can’t catch it from kids.
I didn’t drill down into the Australian case study to see how the timing of everything worked out, but I did notice that kids were apparently infecting each other.
The report acknowledges that schools shutting down closes off good, determinative data. It suggests that “school closures alone may be insufficient to halt the spread” (no shit?!), and then ultimately concludes that children aren’t the “ultimate drivers”…
The only real positive take-away I got from it was pointing out that kids, being less symptomatic, don’t cough as much as adults and therefor probably don’t spread it as much.
I hope the actual scientists & data dorks in the thread can highlight more silver-lining in the report. Please, please do that.
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Wow I read it a lot differently. I guess I need to go back. I thought the general conclusion was that it’s quite tough for kids to get it and when they do it’s tough for them to pass it on (8 percent of the time in this small sample).
Kids very rarely get very sick even when they are infected so the main thing to worry about is how often they pass it to parents and staff, which this seems to show they don’t do very often.