People dying in hospitals feels normal, especially old people.
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I think I addressed that in my post - they only accept what they already believe and dismiss any evidence to the contrary.
Itâs just a way of thinking I cannot understand. Iâm really working on being more patient and understanding with people and trying to understand where theyâre coming from - but with this, I really just canât get it.
Herman Cain was at the Trump rally less than 2 weeks ago.
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I may seriously have to consider moving out of the country. What a fucking dumpster fire.
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I think we need to keep tracking both, in case the reporting of deaths isnât on the up and up.
Oh no. Hopefully he didnât spread it around.
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Yeah, like that would ever happen lol.
Some relatively smart people in some Discord group I belong to were going on the other day about âhell no am I not going to be a guinea pig for whatever they come up withâ. I was trying to explain itâs probably gonna be just the opposite, like theyâre gonna be doing so much testing that people are gonna be like âffs release it already, how many trials do you need to do!â
But nope, these people who should know better insist theyâll wait at least a year after itâs publicly available or maybe more.
From what I gathered in this thread most experts said the earliest a vaccine could be available is in 18 months (correct me if Iâm wrong). Trump claims one will be ready by January. I would be extremely hesitant to take a vaccine that was rushed thru in a short period of time and being pushed by this admin as safe
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Yeah thatâs fair. Iâm going under the assumption that there arenât gonna be shenanigans going on where Trump forces them to declare one of these safe and release it like a year earlier than it should be, then once he gets re-elected he DGAF if everybodyâs kidneys fail 3 months later. Itâs probably a stupid assumption.
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Iâd agree with you normally but these are Trump times and who knows what heâll decide to do.
If heâs somehow reelected I wonder if thereâll be as big a rush to get the vaccine out 2 months later or if itâll be like his âBig tax cuts coming soon!â bullshit from 2018 where as soon as the election was over he pretended he never said anything.
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Agreed. But for the whole month of May we nerds on UP were screaming at the top of our lungs that the decline in COVID cases nationwide was an illusion, since declines in NY/NJ masked slow growth everywhere else.
Now the same might be happening for deaths from what I can tell. Growth in hotspots still just looks like noise in the entire national picture, but it could come to dominate the national stats really soon.
Lol where do I sign up for my UP COVID nerd badge.
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Fauci was on BBC radio 4 today. He said that a drug might be possible post new-year, but only through expediting the stages:
I think you have to sign in to get that. Salient bit is more or less the following:
âYour name was mentioned in a parliamentary session by John Bell of Oxford university who said âAnthony Fauci used to say it would be mid 2021 if we were doing well but that timeline had been brought forward now by the work being done in Oxfordâ, do you agree?â
âYes, but it depends what the Oxford group is aiming atâŚâ
Basically he goes on to say that itâs possible regulators would accept an âemergency useâ vaccine that showed solid evidence of safety in humans, efficacy in animals, evidence that that efficacy would betransferable to humans, but lacked a wide enough study to definitively prove efficacy in humans.
Definitive proof would take longer than the end of this / beginning of next year.
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I donât really get how the FDA is giving testimony to Congress and stuff about how relaxing the red tape and emergency approvals has been really helpful here.
Isnât there, like, a pretty good reason why the regulations are in place? If we were able to get a vaccine into the hands of the general public in a year or whatever, wouldnât that be a tacit admission that the current FDA approval processes are bad? I donât really see how this is going to play out.
Yes. But we are living in a literal large scale insane asylum.
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sigh I feel like thatâs been the response to all of my lastâŚwell all of my posts ITT lol.
It is the reason for the madness. This country is sick in so many ways and Covid brings most of them to the forefront
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