COVID-19: Chapter 4 - OPEN FOR BUSINESS

Hah didn’t even see this before making my reply

For us foreigners this thread is mostly a window into lunacy. Of course there’s plenty of Canadian deniers but tone has shifted drastically in the past couple of months. Deniers are openly ridiculed, most people mask indoors, and maskless people continue to socially distance. People haven’t been this openly bigoted/hostile against Americans since the Bush years.

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I love responses like this. Lol like every country on earth is just watching the arrogant yanks butcher it.

It really is amazing to watch from afar.

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Not so much to watch it up close though.

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The Los Angeles subreddit’s thread on the re-imposition of restrictions is really depressing. “Why can’t I go to dinner with my grandma when all those protests were allowed?” etc etc etc. Another form of social media I have to avoid.

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Anyone have the source of Dr. Birx telling governors not to count deaths with comorbidities?

If you search around news stories around this you will likely find it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox6now.com/2020/05/16/questions-raised-over-accuracy-of-us-coronavirus-death-toll/amp/

" President Trump has privately questioned the number of COVID-19 deaths as the death toll surpassed the 80,000 mark this week, suggesting it may be incorrect or inflated by the current methodology, the Daily Beast reported.

Three administration officials said Deborah Birx, the task force response coordinator, has urged the CDC to exclude from the death count some who were presumed infected, but did not have a confirmed lab result and those who had the virus but might not have died as a direct result of it, according to the news outlet.

According to the paper, Birx and others feared the CDC was inflating coronavirus statistics, like mortality rates and case numbers, by up to 25 percent."

Frankly just combining that with the Florida dashboard person being canned around the same time for not going along with the lower death totals gets you 90% of the way there.

You also have:

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Its a known thing that people from The_Donald and a ton of other right wing subreddits that were banned have purposefully migrated in mass to local subreddits with the goal of taking them over even when they aren’t from there. I can’t be bothered to look up the source but there were posts on T_D about it.

I mean even /r/Canada is a rightwing shithole that has a legit white supremacist as a mod.

Not to say there aren’t a ton of legit people from LA who think like that, but right wing trolls purposefully brigade local subs too and upvote a ton of posts. I once had a post linked to a rightwing sub where soon after like 60 maga idiots came and downvoted lol. There was a whole thread where they were talking about my post and downvoting it to show I was wrong/an idiot.

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Isnt that a given for a church puppet college girl dating a high school sophomore?

Thank you, I appreciate it. I’m feeling extremely drained/lazy today and didn’t find it within the first few results.

I can’t find a smoking gun link so you have to connect dots. But we know Birx and Trump were pushing the CDC to change the way they counted deaths to count less, Florida’s dashboard person was canned because she wouldn’t juice the stats, most states aren’t following CDC guidelines as of June and the largest red states are have suspiciously few deaths day after day, week after week.

I’m no genius but it seems obvious that is what is happening. If i wasn’t so lazy myself I would tally up mortality rates in states with red vs. blue governors the difference has to be staggering.

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I’m too far behind in this thread so catch up but I’m just posting to say our ICU is full and it’s legit looking like they’re starting to figure out which patients will be prioritized for treatment. Republicans finally getting their death panels courtesy of Trump I guess (not sure if it’s quite that grim but it’s definitely not great). The beds aren’t actually completely full of ICU patients but there simply aren’t enough nurses to accommodate that many patients. I’ve actually been working the ICU shift lately so I’m seeing first hand what’s going on and there are clearly so many patients who would otherwise be fine, if not a little unhealthy, who are fighting for their lives over this thing. Even the ones who survive may have permanent debility.

My wife and I were hoping to see our parents because they are all talking about how much they miss their grandchildren. Problem is several of my coworkers tested positive, although all had plausible outside exposures, so I decided to get myself tested. Turns out getting tested if you’re not symptomatic is a real problem here. My work place isn’t doing it for some reason (the reason is money/liability). A friend set up a telehealth visit for me and made a testing appointment but I got conflicting information on getting the test and ended up leaving after sitting in my car on hold for 40 minutes. Went to the one urgent care in town that was advertising rapid testing yesterday and made an appointment for today. Still had to wait an hour in my car before the brought me in but eventually got in. Then they gave me the wrong test, a send out, which used a much deeper and more uncomfortable swab (honestly I wasn’t even upset, everyone is so damn overworked). Now waiting for the results of a rapid test - almost two hours since I got here. USA #1 indeed.

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Yeah, I’m using a spreadsheet Using only reported positive growth rates and assuming a 5.6 day mean transmission time and contagious period of 14 days. Best I can tell this is all a pretty nebulous term and calculation overall where different people plug in assumptions and even different math.

I basically back engineered a simpler calc that was matching up fairly well with values published at the time. Clearly these guys are doing or trying to do some higher end stuff.

We should be testing all healthcare workers frequently. Instead healthcare workers struggle to even get tested.

It’s utter madness.

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What part of the country Jiggy?

Story checks out. My wife got exposed at work accidentally two weeks ago and the hospital wouldn’t test her. She had to go to CVS for a test lol.

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Yeah I talk to a counselor occasionally. My wife also does my job so we help each other out when we get a tough patient like this. I gotta admit this hit me hard. The nurse and I had to go hug it out in the equipment room after we stopped life support. I’m pretty good at keeping it business when I’m at work, but occasionally it all becomes overwhelming. I just want to wreck every covidiot I see for about a week after some I lose patients like this.

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I do this and wash produce either right away or right before I use it, depending.

Any chance that Donald Trump, while completely destroying the US, might be responsible for saving millions of lives across the globe by unifying the world around a crystal clear vision of what is dumb and wrong and not to do?