That NYT article is trash. It first uses an the anecdotal tale from the first tweet as some type of proof. It’s second “data point” is that countries like Germany have reopened schools without outbreaks.
Here is the problem with that. Anecdotal evidence isn’t evidence. Also USA with it’s 50,000 and rising new cases every day isn’t Germany with it’s 100x+ less cases a day. We are going to try and open schools here with probably a much larger problem than we have now. School starts most places in 6 weeks.
Unless we think children can’t spread Covid (I know there has been some conflicting evidence on this that I have read in these threads) how in the world is every school in the country not going to turn into a vector with the kids infecting their teachers, bus drivers, lunch ladies and then when they get home their parents, grandparents and so forth. Now I know there has been some speculation that maybe kids don’t spread it much although I have not seen any real definitive proof of that. If the kids mostly don’t get sick or die that’s great but what about all the adults that work there? What about their families and all the people they come into contact with outside of school.
Lastly it talks about how kids are more effective spreaders of Flu than Covid. Great, just what we need, a normal flu season on top of the Covid shitstorm that will likely still be here by peak Flu season.
I do understand why kids need to be back in school. I want kids in school. The way you do it is to get case numbers low though. The way you don’t do it is to write nonsense op-ed pieces where you basically make the argument that the reward of sending kids back in the middle of a pandemic outbreak are outweighed by the risks based on at best very poor and faulty evidence.
Scary shit. My brother’s fam couldn’t get the antibody test bc they were out. And there are delays in getting test results. We’re still waiting for ours. Last week, we got it in 48 hours this week we’re at 72 hours and no results.
Also, someone posted on my neighborhood group that friend’s husband died of a heart attack yesterday’s and that possibly because of long waits and no hospital beds.
From my friend in Houston.
What’s interesting is that I spoke to my Fox News friend today and she told me her husband did not agree that they should have to wear a mask (although apparently he was wearing one “for others”. ) And now, after being in the hospital and still recovering, worrying he’ll never be the same , he firmly believes everyone single person should wear one.
I’ve adopted the TV sports fan mantra. It really doesn’t matter what I think or say. I can’t psychically affect the outcome*. So for covid in red states I say fuck em. I feel bad about the collateral damage. If asked for advice I will say stay the fuck home and wear a fucking mask. I post stuff here and LinkedIn to try and influence. But from my house? They gets what’s they deserve.
my wife will tell this is a dirty lie and I absolutely think I can influence a game. I once shouted into the phone to my son that “we need an absolute miracle” and then*:
**the whole purpose of this post was to link the video
If we reopen schools we will make every possible mistake and every bus driver, every lunch lady, every custodian and half the teaching admin staff will be sick in a month (stereotyping the first groups as 100% olds and vulnerables). Germany can do this. The US cannot.
Also 100% agree w @WichitaDM that we have to have low case density first.
Expect some kind of announcement from San Diego mayor/county board of supervisors. If they don’t do something we are going to be absolutely overrun this weekend.
My friend who works for the city is already texting the Mayor’s liaison and a couple city councilors about it, I hope they listen.
SC numbers in:
-1500 cases (2nd highest after yesterday’s record)
-19.1% positive @goofyballer
-# of Tests run still increasing but positive % not decreasing is a bad sign
-1160 hospitalizations (+140 since yesterday, biggest single day jump)
-32 deaths, new record high
I hate this virus. I get to pull the tube on a newly married 30yo who got infected at his wedding by his asymptotic brother. 15 people at the wedding and reception, all of it outdoors. Late spring wedding, early summer funeral. Visitor restrictions are a little looser now than the early days. So the wife can watch me through the window as I end her husbands existence.
Yeah the situation here is not even close to Germany in any sense. I spent an hour on the phone with my buddy who lives outside of Munich yesterday. He works for a car parts manufacturer and goes to work for 1 week and then gets 2 weeks off and repeat while still getting 80% of his pay, everywhere inside requires a mask and people adhere to social distancing pretty damn well. He did say some of the older Germans around him don’t believe it but most people are taking it fairly seriously either way.
This friend used to live in the US until ICE agents raided his house about 11 years ago and threw him and his dad in a detention center before being deported back to Montenegro. We all thought this was horrible but it was a blessing in disguise for him because he found a Montenegrin girl who lives in Germany and married her, now he’s spent the last 5 years living a happy life with a 3 year old not having to worry about insurance or financial stability in times of crisis because he lives in a functioning society not completely full of selfish idiots
Jfc this is horrible. This is why I get pissed at people who don’t believe this shit because they don’t have to deal with it like the front line workers do and the actual people suffering do
