COVID-19: Chapter 4 - OPEN FOR BUSINESS

Not too many would care, but a few of us read the daily live updates from the Guardian to see how other countries are doing, so you should post away imo. I know a couple of people eg @suzzer99 said they were interested in updates from around the world

It does seem as if France might have shot its bolt a bit too early but I’m pretty much in the camp that thinks if a country didn’t lock down when the initial seed number was small then it has next to no hope of keeping deaths within a reasonable margin of the minimum.

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Yes I think so on both counts. Developing nations are pretty much relying on their one time summertime virus suppression card, as are the US and UK.

That says something about the political leadership in those two countries that, despite vast resources, we will be vying with developing nations for the worst response to covid.

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Just to reaffirm that everything is stupid, we now apparently have supply shortages of the sterile water we need to run high flow nasal cannulas. Hospitals may have beds, but we may just run out of all the supplies we need to actually treat patients.

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Imo JT has a point. How can it simultaneously be true that:

a) You can get infected by touching an infected doorknob and then putting your fingers in your mouth.
b) You can’t get infected by putting covid-infected food in your mouth.

Doesn’t it have to be one or the other?

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Maybe nobody responded to that because 75% of the forum has that poster on ignore?

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https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1260543382595780608

Moving forward, Kroger is eliminating the metrics related to customers and employees completely. Half of McMullen’s 2020 bonus will be tied to him creating a total of $6.5 billion in free cash flow from 2018 to 2020.

So by cutting pay for hundreds of thousands of Kroger employees now, McMullen creates more free cash flow for the company. That gives McMullen, and the other top executives, a better chance of receiving the maximum possible bonus.

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https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/05/12/csu-uc-systems-expect-online-classes-to-continue-through-fall-term/

“At this juncture, it’s likely none of our campuses will fully re-open in fall,” said UC spokesman Stett Holbrook in an email to CBS2. “We will be exploring a mixed approach with some material delivered in classroom and lab settings while other classes will continue to be online.”

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I can’t read those words except in the voice of Dana Carvey doing GHW Bush.

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Did you perhaps miss the part where they still encourage you to wash your hands?

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Wash your hands after touching the infected surface, but if your food touches said surafce then that’s ok?

Or is it that the interior of the container less likely to be contaminated?

I think you mean Freedom Fighter

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My main issues are:

  1. Schools opening for ~the last month of the school year. Just seems completely pointless given it’s not mandatory and will be phased so it absolutely won’t represent meaningful education. I know a few teachers and they seem unanimous that it’s just an extra burden given a large percentage will continue to need to be home schooled anyway. Yeah, having them closed till a vaccine might well be too much, but the 19/20 school year is surely done apart from home schooling no matter what.

  2. Not doing obvious stuff like mandating masks outside or in shops, or continuing to message about caution. Instead it’s up to individual shops to do it if they like, and the branding is ‘Déconfinement’—literally undoing what the lock down was called, ‘Confinement’.

  3. Seemingly no understanding, or even a real discussion of the social impact of telling everyone to go to work except if home work is possible. Obviously this will affect lower incomes disproportionately, and, in the Parisian context, certain areas disproportionately. e.g. On Monday morning it was reported as a curious fact that after an initial and worrying flood very early mostly in the northern suburbs, traffic on the metro tailed off to a manageable level. A transport spokesperson that afternoon seemed baffled but said, essentially, “well at least it’s OK now.” Except that if shop workers and so on need to go to work in Paris, but middle class folk stay home, it’s spectacularly obvious that that will be the pattern of usage.

Edit - I hit post by accident, was going to end by saying that in general I think that the lock downs can’t last for a year or more for lots of reasons, but I also don’t think the French authorities have safety in mind in what they’re doing. We’ll see.

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For the last several years I’ve given blood like clockwork, every eight weeks. I do it at Children’s Hospital Los Angeles, where it is used to literally save children’s lives. My blood type is O so they always want the whole blood (rather than double red or platelets). It is an incredibly easy thing for me to do with a pretty big positive impact IMO, so frankly I feel pretty great about it. I last gave in the beginning of March, right before everything got nuts. So now I’m eligible again and they’re asking me to come in. They need the blood just as much as before, and of course lots of people are declining to donate.

Under these circumstances, are there measures they could take that they could possibly entice you to give? Or just a hard pass?

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Zero chance I’m passing on giving blood when I’m eligible again. I gave a few weeks ago and the place I go was basically empty. Treat this as a necessary trip, imo. Blood banks are pretty desperate.

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San Bernardino & Riverside. Pretty sure all the shithole counties around the inland empire.

When Czech to English translations go wrong

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Not use a big needle.

Ok, I suck.

I could be shamed into giving blood and would do it under the current circumstances.

I think it has something to do with digestion and stomach acid. Or at least that’s how I read the article.

Fascist or edgelord? Porque no los dos?