COVID-19: Chapter 4 - OPEN FOR BUSINESS

His reasoning is terrible and his facts are even wrong.
Ain’t got all night but for instance, he says Italy = South Korea = China = Iran (w/r/t % infected at peak I guess?). I don’t think they’re all doing social fistsncign as well as China so it must be some property of the virus that causes it. Nevermind he has no idea what that might be. But obviously:
1)sk is doing at least ad good a job of social distancing snd contact tracing as China is.
2)Iran is digging mass graves and lying about everything.
3}His premise is wrong anyway the numbers he says are the same are different.

So he’s great at something. Bully for him. Why does he think he’s better than everybody at everything? I can’t even any more with this guy.

And it really does mean different things for different places. My Province in Canada is beginning to open up. Of a roughly 1m population has 14 active cases and no days with over 2 new cases in the last week, with every new case being on/from a northern reserve.
I’m completely OK with some things being loosened here, and I say that working with the public every day.

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Hey @Riverman are you moving into G or what? Trip reports from COVID block parties, please!

The one problem I’m running into with “us people” is that we say stuff like:

Most of the country isn’t locked down at all.

and

OPEN FOR BUSINESS = second wave worst than the first exponential growth bodies in the street.

I honestly don’t understand how all of the places that never meaningfully locked down didn’t go nuclear exponential growth. It’s been in these places for months, and there are plenty of big cities in the “die for the economy” parts of the US.

The best I can think is that maybe people are actually locked down in places like Georgia and Texas and Florida more than I think that they are?

I just can’t square what seems to be the fact that many places without strict mitigation just haven’t exploded with thinking that easing restrictions in other not-so-hard-hit areas will lead to catastrophe.

Even a half assed lockdown is better than nothing. Most places did enough to get R0 down to 1 or so. If OPEN FOR BUSINESS means we go from 0.9 to 1.2 or something then we go back to exponential growth but it will take a lot of time to see expansive growth.

Literally just not having festivals, sporting events and concerts probably lowers R0 pretty substantially.

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Also, I really don’t give a fuck what a doctor thinks about the appropriate precautions in washing produce to kill/remove coronavirus. I care what virologists and epidemiologists think.

so what are those mf’ers saying about it?

From the cell data collected by WaPo, the percent of time people were home March 1st, peak, April 30th:

Florida: 72% 93% 88%
Texas: 71% 93% 87%
Georgia: 70% 92% 86%

Unfortunately, that’s probably down to 80% or so.

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Nothing that I’ve seen, our highly efficient media keeps asking doctors.

Do you happen to have this for NH? I’m kind of curious because I think people seemed to be pretty careful until right around the 30th, but really it was May 2nd when everybody decided the virus was over so let’s have a party.

2 months ago tonight Rudy Gobert and Tom Hanks tested positive. The US had just hit 1,000 total cases. Now we have 20-30,000 new cases a day and are averaging over 1,500 deaths a day. The general mood here has gone from fearful 2 months ago to ready to party and OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

I guess my point is that seems like a lot longer than 2 months ago and holy shit the right wing propaganda machine is powerful. As soon as they cranked up the DIE FOR THE DOW JOANS to 11 everyone got on board.

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Seems like 6 months ago.

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Australian federal government touting deregulation as key to post-covid recovery. yugh

The problem here is that it’s not like an extra 5-10% of non-home time is going to be hiking alone or going to a grocery store with a mask. It’s going to be drunkenly making out with strangers at the bar and going out to eat twice a week.

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Yup. If you poll the US on March 1st you told them by the middle of May we would have 1.5m total confirmed cases and 90,000 deaths what do you think the reaction would be? I think a huge percentage would be horrified or in disbelief.

As has been true for 30 years the right wing propaganda machine is dragging us deeper and deeper into the abyss and we get to watch it in real time kill people this time. It isn’t an abstraction this time. They are openly rooting for and championing the death of the poor and elderly to the delight of their audience under the thin veil of the “economy” and lip service to drug abuse and suicide. Tons of people who would otherwise be taking this seriously aren’t because of Tucker, Hannity, Rush and the rest of them.

I’m only giving partial credit to the RW machine here. Many people are tired of being inside and it’s going to warm up soon and stopped caring about the risks. I mean 1918 flu killed more than this and people were like OPEN UP DAMNIT back then too but of course we have less patience and more shit inside to occupy our time.

Covid has just started to gain traction (or at least we’re finally getting tested for it) in my rural county so WAAF me.

Not when they are allowing museums, theaters, festivals, weddings and 100 person sports.

The reason why I think you are wrong is the partisan divide in the OPEN FOR BUSINESS polling. If Tucker and Hannity were talking about how we have to sacrifice for the greater good and continue social distancing and use masks then people would be doing it.

Which hard hit places are doing this? UK? Italy and Spain lockdowns continue to be quite harsh even though they are easing.

NH: 68% 93% 89%

I wasn’t referring to those idiots. Just the overall vibe I’m getting here. Certainly rural skewed/outdoors though.

I lol’d at people watching tucker and hannity ever sacrificing for the greater good. The same crowd that has a meltdown about being told to put on a mask.