COVID-19: Chapter 4 - OPEN FOR BUSINESS

I think our increase in testing capacity is closer to zero than it is to where it should be and by any metric you choose to use.

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Ya Iā€™m going to go with being able to do 100k vs. 250k tests a day when the experts say we need 20m a day means basically nothing. As far as PPE production increases, that matters if it happened. Based on what we know now increases in ventilator production when doctors have been more and more hesitant to ventilate patients(for good reasons) and 80% die anyways that matters only a little. Itā€™s hard to think we need all these millions of ventilators unless we hit a literal apocalypse scenario at this point.

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Not only do you kill the grandmas, you arm yourself to the teeth and shoot anyone who tries to stop you.

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This belongs in the main covid thread imo. These people are fucking dangerous.

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Dude has already been erased from the internet.

He was a ā€œdocument services manager,ā€ which is a fancy title for a literal copy machine operator.

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This idea that we havenā€™t ramped up testing capacity is simply false. We have. At least in NY, we have substantially. I can now call and get a test if I have any symptoms whatsoever at a drive through testing facility near my home. That was not true a month ago. Granted, Iā€™m an essential worker so I have priority, but itā€™s still better than it was.

I want you to be right, but there is no evidence to suggest a large percentage of people have already been infected.

If you think the serology studies are UNDER counting cases, then the IFR would need to be ridiculously low. Most experts seem to think itā€™s the opposite, if anything, because of false positives in the serostudies. Random (non-sero) tests also imply a low percentage infected.

If you donā€™t like the tests, then fine, letā€™s forget them for a moment and just use logic. If you think that 10% of the U.S. population has already been infected ā€“ and it seems you are suggesting even higher ā€“ then that would mean we have an IFR of about .3%. If you think 20% of the population has already had it, that would mean an IFR of about .15%. Almost .25% of NYCā€™s entire population has already died from Covid! That makes no sense whatsoever.

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No fucking UI for this guy

This is the stuff thatā€™s really freaking me out way more than the disease. Not only do these people want to pull the lever to kill the 5 grandmas rather than wear a mask, they are armed to the teeth and ready to shoot anyone who tries to stop them.

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Donā€™t have the reference now but saw that Major League Baseball antibody study of 10,000 was 0.7 % positive. If extrapolated nationally thatā€™s roughly 2x the total positives.

I donā€™t know enough about the biases but I would say this test likely has a very low false positive rate and that the big numbers ala Santa Clara are total BS. I was going with 10x but thinking that 5x is probably a more reasonable guesstimate.

Regardless herd immunity is light years away

Dude Iā€™m sorry but this is false. There are zero places in the USA currently doing virus testing that didnā€™t exist pre-covid. There might be some places that collect swabs but the places doing the testing already existed. We still have massive bottlenecks at the most simple of testing supplies. There is no path to the testing we need through simply repurposing our current capacity. The path forward was to build our testing capacity from the ground up. That or do lockdowns harsh enough or early enough where 250-300k/tests have any meaningful effect.

This idea that somehow we just shift our current testing capacity over to Covid and that gets it done is total fantasy with 20k+ new confirmed cases a day.

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I donā€™t know how you can say itā€™s false when NY is literally proof it is not. Like, I couldnā€™t get a test before and now I, and anyone else who is still working right now and has contact with public or coworkers can get a test. I get that testing capacity is not currently enough to reopen. You get no argument from me. But to argue that it hasnā€™t improved? Thatā€™s just not the case. I have no idea whatā€™s happenning on the ground in the red states, but itā€™s improved in NY and Iā€™mā€™ guessing the surrounding blue states.

Again .25% OF THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF NYC IS DEAD ALREADY IN TWO MONTHS. These trolly exposes where he fantasizes that everyone already had it(and implies the IFR is therefore very low)are frankly insane. Ya Iā€™m being an asshole because he keeps posting the same nonsense week after week.

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No one said we donā€™t have more tests. The argument is that the meaninful impact of getting from 100k tests a day to 250k tests a day is zero.

By any scientific perspective testing needs to increase by 10-100x from today for actual control in the US. The labs donā€™t exist for that. The lab technicians donā€™t exist for that. The raw materials to test donā€™t exist for that. Tripling testing in two months means literally nothing when the actual need for any real impact is 100x from base and that is probably impossible with our current government.

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In Alachua County FL, you can tested for COVID. I assume itā€™s being done at UF but the mayor of Gainesville has been posting about it on his Facebook page for the past week.

I was thinking in general if I saw any store with signs like that I would turn around.

And? No one is arguing that. How many asymptomatic people are being tested. I Will hang up and listen.

So apparently my parents and most of my extended family in KC, are now ā€œisolating togetherā€ including my religious nutter aunt who thinks Fauci, Bill Gates and Soros are conspiring to vaccinate everyone with disease to make us all dependent on the govt. I seriously have my doubts sheā€™s taking this seriously and not associating with people from her church. Fuck.

Obviously he would have amounted to more if not for liberal policies pushing undeserving blacks and women ahead of him. WHEN WILL A WHITE MAN CATCH A BREAK IN THIS COUNTRY!

Pence is in quartantine. Hope Mother is OK.