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It isn’t a surprise to me that schools/teachers aren’t able to gracefully pivot to online teaching and learning. We’ve had Webex for conference calls in the professional world for what, 15 years now and it’s still a miracle to make it through a meeting without hearing someone taking a leak unmuted in the background or spending 5 minutes trying to figure out how to share that TPS report.
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When we say a delta/omicron hybrid would “wreck” us, what does that even mean? Like hardly anyone is really that wrecked right now. Watching a full slate of college basketball and NFL football where the arenas/stadiums are going to be full, the restaurants are full, bars are open. I ordered some dumb shit off of Amazon this morning that’ll be here on Monday. We in this thread might feel wrecked, but since we’re talking about the royal we, ain’t nobody wrecked.
I do remember that
and “we’d” still be packing stadiums and bars and Alexa would still be bringing us our gizmos, while WE f5 the graphs and be bigmad.
IMO theres no way to escape it barring hard borders, but there were/are ways to avoid the complete fuck it we are currently doing. Sort of out of my hands so trying not to worry much, but things are gonna get fucking grim if this has real long-term effects with any sort of frequency and jury definitely still out on that.
https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1479891085669244929
Lots of WAGing at total #s and Omicron hospitalization rates in this thread.
I’m not really arguing anything, other than that when folks say things like “we’re getting wrecked” or “we would get wrecked”, life is nearly 100% normal for most folks where I’m at (a very blue state in the US) and a when a variant comes with worse outcomes than omicron, it’ll stay normal for pretty much everyone while we gnash our teeth here about how cataclysmic things are and the bars will stay full while the “bodies pile up”.
https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1479891088437493762
This is pretty good news, but I’m curious how the numbers compare in a less vaxxed state like Florida or Oklahoma.
We are letting asymptomatic people work with omicron to avoid essential services collapsing.
I think you are underestimating what would happen if the next variant is this with worse outcomes for the boosted that would make working while contagious unfeasible. Yeah people are gonna try and shrug it off, but wouldn’t take that much of a change to make that not quite feasible.
UK Health Security Agency data shows three months after boosting, protection against hospitalisation remains at about 90% for people aged 65 and over.
Protection against mild symptomatic infection is more short-lived.
That drops to about 30% by about three months.
Figures also show why it is important to get a booster dose if you have only had two doses so far.
With just two vaccine doses, protection against severe disease drops to about 70% after three months and to 50% after six months.
I think we can all agree that if the next variant is as contagious as omicron, and with bad outcomes across both vaxxed/boosted and previously infected cohorts, that we are basically fucked. But what are we collectively supposed to do about it? Sometimes you have to accept taking the loss and just move on and hope for the best. And I can accept that perhaps I’m at least part of the problem, although I’ll be damned to know what more I could have done than what I did, which was practically lock my family in our house for like 9 months, exceptions made for funerals and a small bubble of folks who were also being as careful as we were, and that mostly being done for my daughters sanity.
Yeah, my point is that businesses aren’t closing even if more people get sick and more people die. Lots more. We’ll just have more people working sick and normalize it. We just got our first chance at seeing what happens when a monster wave crashes in the new “post-COVID” world. And, the answer was just stop caring if you are sick, head down, go to work. I honestly can not even imagine how much death we would need to see to reverse that trend. Certainly not 2k/day. Doubt 10k/day moves the needle. We done, see thread title.
It would be super easy to spin this whole thing in a history book as a triumph (especially compared to the one from 100yrs ago). I’m guessing a lot of the stupidest things will get memory holed. But maybe not. It’s a lot harder to memory hole stuff in 2020 than it was in 1920.
Single best paragraph I’ve read on the subject.
The vax is very helpful but if the severity factor was 3-5x Omicron then all hospitals systems would be fucked.
You sure about that?
We’re just easing ourselves back into the old ways of people getting sick with something and coming in to work anyway giving it to all of their coworkers.
Internet makes it harder. I’m assuming in the future one can very easily google contemporaneous news sources from this pandemic. That’s a lot harder to do for 1920.
Yes but 30% or more will think just the opposite. Just a huge fail.
That’s called a “garrison”.
A half dozen students tested positive for COVID today. And that’s just the three teachers who emailed the other teachers. Probably also excludes parents who are choosing to hide their kid’s COVID condition.
Doesn’t sound like much to all of you but during past waves we weren’t getting emails like this regularly. I’m sure that this is merely the tip of the iceberg. More antigen testing on Monday and I’m needed to supervise some of the tests since the entire school is now getting tested rather than just unvaccinated students. Never supervised the tests. So, I don’t exactly know what to do. Thankfully, the students probably do.
Can confirm, my place of employment immediately adopted the 5 day rule in lieu of the 10 day rule.