That only works if the unvaxxed person somehow manages to dodge COVID for like two years or so.
Maybe. I dont think this is a thing right now anyways or that this is the correct explanation, but would that be necessarily true for an Omicron infection vs. an OG vaccination?
I think we are going to just āgo back to normalā pretty soon, but I think we are taking a lot of (what I hope is) tail risk. Im not going to be surprised from what Ive read if we wake up in ten years and have massive increases in heart problems, dementia, cancer, and autoimmunity problems. Like 2019 life expectancy in the US was 78.8 years, if I had to bet on where it was in 2029 I think Id set the O/U at something like 71.
Oh are we talking about my 85 year old grandfather with a history of a quadruple bypass surgery and chronic kidney disease?
God dammit that makes me so mad.
https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/status/1490827066454863873
Unvaccinated people will still need to wear masks indoors.
Still on the good old honor system, yay.
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I think the whole concept of prior immunity not being Omicron tailored is for when the existing antibodies do a good enough job. If the virus gains the upper hand then the immune system will select for more specific antibodies. But with everything Covid, once the virus gets the upper hand your chance of a bad outcome goes up dramatically.
If omicron itself doesnāt trigger lasting immunity then fuuuuuck.
The early work on immunity from mild natural omnicron infection isnāt super encouraging, but we will see.
Maybe for the vaccinated catching Omicron three times a year wonāt be much different than catching a cold three times a year.
Have seen some theories that Omicron is less immunogenic then prior versions because of changes to the spike protein but nothing substantiated yet.
https://mobile.twitter.com/K_G_Andersen/status/1488321416755761154
An immune response isnāt part of germ theory, and youāre just telling on yourself that you donāt actually know what germ theory is. If you have actual questions, Iāll be happy to educate you.
Delta breakthrough did not cross-protect Omicron (expected)
wat? I would not have expected that.
Also:
https://twitter.com/DavidLVBauer/status/1488454511182110720?s=20&t=9hkzeoYNGQEwpDIu2uYQug
https://twitter.com/DavidLVBauer/status/1483946085164982274?s=20&t=9hkzeoYNGQEwpDIu2uYQug
Why would we think a delta infection would cross protect against omicron given the massive spikes in omnicron in places that had previously had major delta waves? Am I missing something?
because they are structurally very similar viruses in the grand scheme of things and the vaccine provides protection against both delta and omicron.
Nothing. The two topics are completely unrelated.
This is like saying the vaccines were worthless because we had an Omicron wave in places that had high vaccination rates. If your immune system had to gear up to fight Delta, it would be odd if there was no protection against a very-closely-related stain.
Germ theory said that it was extremely unlikely for people to transmit a respiratory virus efficiently without being infected. Thatās still true.
The vaccines also provide substantial protection against all variants to this day.
Sick burn victor. I really need to be reminded of the seriousness of Covid. Itās not like I worked in New York City in a volunteer only position for about 20 bucks an hour. Or have gotten exposed to Covid nearly every work day for the past two years. Itās people like you, aggressively posting on the internet about things they donāt understand, who are the true heroes.
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I just read it as weaker protection from antibodies, not like all immune response disappears. Iād have a hard time reconciling strong antibody protection from previous variants with what we observed from Omicron with like 40 percent of the country getting infected in eight weeks or so.
Itās like cargo-cult dunking; if I just say āgerm theoryā or āFrench Laundry,ā that counts as a sick dunk.
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Iām hoping the twitter pessimists start taking some Ls for the first time in awhile and the fourth time is the charm for the this wave ends the worst of COVID prognosticators, but Iām probably going to have to see it actually happen at this point.
Can you even explain in your own words what you think he was wrong about?
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https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1491225102297538561
Everything is made up and the points donāt matter
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