I forget which part of California you’re in, but I was thinking it was the Bay Area. Is she full of shit about there not being hospital capacity issues there?
yupppppp, especially during delta and just outside of the Bay Area during omicron.
Woke up before I meant to for change and bottle duty tonight, and have had this half formed argument in my mind for a day or two.
It started with a tweet I saw which of course I can’t find right now, but it asserted that as soon as the elites figured out that people would be dying in hospitals and not in the street, there was a focus from lockdowns to restarting the economy.
Obviously that is super oversimplified and I’m pretty sure the guy who wrote it is a tankie communist type, but it isn’t completely wrong either.
Then I thought about a comedy/true crime type podcast that covered the Black Death and used this book as a source (The Great Mortality)
The weird bit about that story was how much power the lower class gained during this time. Worker shortages propped up wages. People who survived pooled inheritances to the point where they gained actual wealth.
Obviously the amount of destruction during the plague years are so much worse than Covid, but you still see some of this in our time.
Don’t really have a concluding point, just something bouncing around in my head.
There’s definitely going to be some degree of impact in this regard. I watch some of the yard sale flippers on YouTube, and one guy was at a sort of make-shift estate sale in a house somewhere in the rural South late in 2020. The woman running it said that a mother, her sister, and her son had all died within three months. I thought, “Holy shit, this was probably a triple COVID-death estate sale… and given the timeline I wonder if the first death lead to a super spreader funeral?”
I’ve also noticed a lot of houses on the market around here that look like they were last remodeled/updated in the 1970s.
Was this on the podcast? If so, do you have a link?
It’s a buried detail in the podcast that’s like 85% not serious. Wouldn’t go for it if you’re actually interested in facts and detail. I’m thinking about reading that book though
Hasan is the GOAT interviewer.
At least Gandhi had the good sense to just fold at the end. Did not see that coming.
Nah I mean it’s kinda impossible to control for that. They did the door knocking on weekends so it wasn’t all unemployed people. I was thinking they probably get more refusals from the unvaccinated but who knows.
I haven’t paid too close attention to Australia, but is it anywhere near reasonable that roughly 20% of that area had covid at the same time? Seems unlikely at first glance but can’t say for sure.
Does seem a bit unlikely, maybe randomly got more cases than average. I probably don’t have a hugely better idea than you, I haven’t followed Queensland’s numbers very closely, let alone the Gold Coast specifically. They had a middling kind of outbreak, not as many cases as Sydney, not as few as some other places.
BA.2 ‘Son of Omicron’ doing it’s business
The number of adults in Denmark infected with Covid may be double the official tally, Danish scientists said on Thursday, after releasing data suggesting one third of the adult population has been infected in the past three months.
By screening blood donations for certain antibodies, Danish scientists say they have come closer to determining how many people are actually infected, after the emergence of the more infectious Omicron variant.
The preliminary research, conducted by the Nordic country’s top infectious disease authority, Statens Serum Institut (SSI), was based on analysis of 4,722 blood donations collected in mid-January.
The blood was analysed to see whether it contained antibodies against the virus’s nucleocapsid protein. This type of antibody is only created when the body encounters the real coronavirus. It would not figure in blood samples from people who had never been infected, even though they have developed antibodies from vaccines.
“The results indicate that … the proportion of infected people who have not tested positive makes up between a third and a half of all infections,” said Henrik Ullum, the SSI director.
This means that for every 100 coronavirus infections registered, another 100 infections could go unreported.
Terrible journalism. Doesn’t he know he’s going to lose access on he doesn’t suck up to the people he’s interviewing.
The economy was still Malthusian at the time of the Black Death, so decline in population means more land per person, which means higher productivity and wage/rent competition to get people to work the fields.
COVID hasn’t had a major impact on population, so not likely to be similar effects. Also, in a service/knowledge economy, the death of a worker is a pure loss. They weren’t tying up productive capital that someone else can use, there’s just less capacity to do so stuff.
You clearly have not met some of my coworkers.
So they were a bit biased toward people at home and not out and about in the world or ill in hospital. But statistically prolly not too relevant as the total percentage of folks in hospital has a likely probability of 0 individuals in that sample size.
The other thing we don’t know is if the positives were clustered in single households.
Thanks for the follow up.
20/117 is massive for a single point in time. They should repeat in two weeks. (Not the same people)
https://nordot.app/862259863491526656?c=592622757532812385
The Zorns’ family did not want to discuss the couple’s vaccination status
Don’t think they belong in the bad people thread but we all know what the above statement means.
Huh, sometimes bullying works.
I want to laugh but Typhoid Emily mostly accomplished what she was trying to do
Admittedly I’m not following this much anymore but isn’t Oster an advocate of school opening only. She isn’t some full on anti-vaxxer nut is she?