COVID-19 (2): Turns out it's going to be pretty bad actually

Certain states are selling Shirley Jackson style lottery tickets.

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How does that work? If the worker is laid off - were they supposed to just be waiting around for their old employer to call them to come back to work? What if the worker moved or got a different job?

It literally takes the business to tattle on their former worker and say we reached out to them and they won’t come back. I hope? that won’t happen very often.

Masks are approximately worthless for keeping the wearer from getting infected and reduce the chance of the wearer infecting others by 50-70%.

Since the employer pays unemployment tax based on the amount of people that have collected unemployment, I suspect it would be more common than you suspect/

“C.V.” has been my real life nickname for many years. This is a confusing time to be alive.

Run back through all these numbers and think for a second. Are 40% of Indiana counties blue? No chance. Are 58% of Louisianans black? Not a chance. Democratic constituencies are being impacted disproportionately.

That’s surgical masks or homemade masks, and the protection effect won’t be zero. It may be 5-10% but it’ll be something.

N95 or better masks almost certainly help, but we don’t know exactly how much.

I think this was it early on and because of that now they realize they can’t possible be the party associated with having made the right moves during this thing so they are doubling down and hoping that they can make the lockdowns broadly unpopular and associate them with Democrats. I don’t really think any of it has anything to do with expectations around Covid itself. It’s kind of all they have to hope for if Covid generally plays a big role in November.

The depressing thing is you could see this having worked if the lockdowns were early and effective enough to let people think it was an overreaction.

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I think you underestimate how much of reopening the economy is just about keeping the millionaire class earning and keeping the system in place. They’d rather people not die, but kind of in the same way I’d rather it not rain tomorrow. I have some new partio furniture I’d rather not see get soaked, but I can’t be bothered to go to too much effort to cover it up. If it rains, it rains.

They know who keeps those campaign donation checks coming, and thus who they need to keep happy. You don’t see the Kochs, the Walton’s, or Sheldon Adelson at those protests, nor will you see them in a bar or a bowling alley anytime soon. But they need their earning machines turned back on so they can keep getting richer.

Edited to add: welcome!

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Is there a proper link to it?


Sometimes, I regret engaging in more serious discussion with people I like (or at least don’t hate). I asked my cleaning lady how the pandemic affected her workload since I hadn’t asked her to clean for the last 2+ months due to covid19 (I normally ask her to clean monthly). Basically, she couldn’t legally do her job for 3 weeks due to the mandatory quarantine. When quarantine restrictions were loosened at the beginning of April, she started working but only if the place was empty when she was there. It was just last week when she began working for all of her regular customers.

She sounded sensible until she revealed the conspiracy theories she believes in related to covid19. Now, I don’t expect cleaning ladies to hold nuanced political and social beliefs but anti-vaxxers drive me insane. I had never even heard the argument that vaccines “weaken our immune systems” but apparently that’s an argument that exists in that community. She also said something that was either somebody released it as a means to destroy capitalism or that capitalist system helped spread it. I mean I guess it could be argued that pandering to big businesses allowed it to spread further but I think she meant that some entity released the virus (Chinese government I assume) for the purpose of destroying capitalist countries.

I wonder if people can feel out when others disagree with them without that person stating it. I knew 5 minutes of discussion on my way out would only lead to awkwardness and her not changing her mind. Instead, I shut up when she started saying stuff like that because she’s honest, really good at her job and doesn’t charge much.

My question to all of you is: If a person you hired to do a job for you revealed that they had deplorable and/or stupid political/moral/social beliefs, would that be enough to find somebody else to do that job for you?

Doubt a p100 is worthless. You can’t even smell bleach held to your face while wearing it.

I think what’s been undercovered (at least in my country) are the social problems that’ll come as a result of covid19.

Not only will unemployment increase but homelessness, drug use, property crime, and begging will become far more common. I mean I live in a residential area and prior to today, hadn’t seen a single beggar as they normally do their begging in the city center where the tourists are. Now I’m starting to see them in residential neighborhoods. So it’s clear that there’s more competition for fewer tourists which is forcing some to move to different neighborhoods to beg.

It’s going to be way worse in other countries and cities. NYC is gonna be terrible after the pandemic settles.

In California right now at least they are not adjusting company’s unemployment tax rates based on claims filed.

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Grunching, but Not sure if EDems is a different demographic in Aus than the U.S., but “standard eDems” in the US are taking the COVID threat seriously, they aren’t the ones protesting the stay-at-home orders, even the ones who are boomers, those are the Republicans. Man, I wonder where you could have gotten misled that eDems are no different than deplorable Republicans…

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5,000 people sleep rough on the street every night in the UK, a figure that’s doubled since the Tories’ austerity programme, introduced in 2010, that they’ve refused to lift.

The total number of homeless (ie in temporary accommodation) is at least 320,000.

This government and its special advisors would be secretly delighted if covid wiped out them and a lot of the over 80s.

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Only 5,000 in the entire country? That’s way less than I expected. Looked like there was that many in London last time I was there.

Prague alone has around 2,000 people sleeping rough.

Are homeless people getting $1,200?

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Collectively yes. Not proposing that people spend significant time in each other’s Space.

Basic point-if the politicians and business people are going to force things open, can we at least avoid the worst case spread and stress on the healthcare system.

And there has to be mask technology that’s better than 0.5. But even at that if we could have cut transmission by even 1/3 that would have saved a ton of lives.

My individual risk cut by minimal time around others. Our collective risk by everyone spewing less virus by wearing masks, even the most basic ones.

Institutions and crowded work spaces need something further.

Sorry I wasn’t clear. I meant boomers who vote labour (our centre-left [ish]) party. Was trying to paint them as non-mouth breathing boomer generation members and wasn’t going to paint them as particularly progressive educated people (although they are all lawyers basically).

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