Can they just raise the pay and test daily for coronavirus? If these plants are so important, certainly we can allocate them tests?
Beyond that, I imagine we will use prison labor before we start starving.
But I do think the military should be training for this type of shit right now. Like, worst case is you call in a marine brigade/army reserves to farm/kill chickens.
I donāt think wheat and corn require a lot of labor per calorie, but a lot of other food besides just meat does and there are many different points along the chain of wheat to bread or whatever at the supermarket.
The throughput of one of these meat processing plants in $$$ is absolutely insane. The costs being processed are also insane. If the plant shuts down for an hour the amount of money that gets lost upstream (often by the people who own the plant since so much of the chain is vertically integrated) is mind boggling.
Trust me this is one of those problems that money can solve. If they need to pay workers 50/hr to solve it they will. If they need to pay workers 100/hr to solve it they will. Iāve been around when meat plants get into trouble on the trucking side and I can tell you from personal experience that they do not give a fuck. The meat must flow. If it costs them 10,000 dollars to get a truck to move a load 200 miles when the normal cost is 750 they will absolutely spend it if thereās no other choice. The value of one truckload of meat is often well in excess of 100k. Itās not unheard of for a beef load to be worth >250k. These plants are processing a million dollars plus an hour worth of meat and sometimes much more.
For reference a load of chicken breast is worth 125k wholesale. A load of turkey breasts is worth 180k. These prices are a few years old, but from what I understand theyāve gone up not down. A load of pork or beef is going to be that or more.
We probably arenāt going to starve to death. People in Yemen probably are going to starve to death. People in Mexico are like 50/50. We probably arenāt.
I still fail to understand how pork becoming scarce, and some other meats to a lesser degree, sets off some chain of events that leads to America going hungry. Are there people out there who eat nothing but pork all day?
Why donāt you have an oven? Is it a cost thing?
But yeah these things are definitely manageable but its mostly driving my mom crazy because its such a mess. The refrigerator is in the dining room and all the stuff from the kitchen are currently in boxes in the living room. House is basically a disaster.
Why are Mexicans 50/50 gonna starve?
are peanuts labor intensive? cause a jar peanut butter is like a zillion calories.
Use the reverse uno card that Trump admin has used for 3 years and say fuck you to Trump admin and the courts and ignore it.
Pork is hardly the only thing being affected, but yeah, people need a certain number of calories and eliminating any food source is eliminating some of those calories from the entire system. Thereās less food. Now I know Americans have calories to spare, but when the amount of calories available per person goes below maintenanceā¦well, you know how that makes you feel.
And of course what happens is calorie supply goes down, prices go up, for some people that will have no effect at all on consumption and for others itāll be the difference between enough to eat and not quite enough.
When enough people are a little hungry, weāll stop exporting food. In poor countries that depend on imports, people will die.
Yeah, like micro says Iām awfully far away from SoCal. And I already have an unfinished job Iām not going to. Iām the contractor who wonāt show up because of 'Rona :)
Combination of laziness and we never really used the oven much (also laziness). It would not be difficult or expensive to fix. We do cook, but on the stove or crockpot and @anon10396289 let me know that we can microwave potatoes.
Because they depend on imported food and a lot of people in Mexico are hungry as it is.
In 2008, 18.2 percent of the population in Mexico was in poverty meaning they could not buy adequate food for their families even if they use their entire income. An analysis done by CONEVAL found that the states with the highest percentages of food poverty were Chiapas, Guerrero and Oaxaca.
Even before it gets to that point Americans will be replacing those calories with junk food leading to another health epidemic.
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But how much junk food relies on the remnants of the meat supply chain for their production.
I would feel much better about this impending supply chain disaster if literally anyone else was running things. I just canāt see my way to this not going horrible wrong due to bad decisions and lack of decisions.
The one saving grace for the US is their massive obesity rate and overconsumption, which creates a lot of space for a reduced food supply.
I think I know which 40%!
Maybe they should convert that pork processing plant into a peanut farm. How long will that take?