They are not going to have a choice. Who is going to work there? Is the government going to pay for everyone to eat $500 a lb meat?
Don’t get me wrong, I agree with you. And it is a semi solvable problem but the people in charge will never get there before it is a horrific disaster.
Pence goes to Mayo
Pence wears no mask
Pence goes el muerto
Ivanka for VP you ask?
I mean if they pay like $40/h I think you will see lots of young healthy people willing to work for them.
Big news here is no liability if they stay open. That’s what the endgame is of the Tyson’s editorial was yesterday.
Liability will be decided by the supreme court right?
If so yeah workers are completely fucked.
Right. And most of them will end up being sick and you will have to bring more people in etc. if young people start dying in that environment nobody will do it. Plus most people will not be able to afford the product.
Like everything the government does they just knee jerk react and never think anything out.
You can likely reach a highly expensive way to keep the supply chain going, but it actually requires planning and forethought not just wild reaction:
Ha. I was living in Darwin in the early 90s.
I suppose Alice has its strong points. It’s just a racist fucking hell hole and I can’t step past that part.
The meat processing plant issue is just the tip of the iceberg really with this type of stuff. Our 2019 economy was essentially a giant sham propped up by stimulus/QE/record debt levels across the board. You are going to see these rippling effects happen across just about every industry. No amount of firing up the money printer fixes something like this.
The truly scary thing is it is easy to forget we are basically a month and a half into a 2 year marathon of this kind of stuff happening.
How is it solvable? Because I got nothing other than let COVID spread or let people starve.
s’up
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2
The n gets pretty small on actual coronavirus shedders but mask>no mask seems pretty obvious.
I especially like this part from the methods section:
Both the previous and current study used a bioaerosol collecting device, the Gesundheit-II (G-II)
I have no idea, apparently he is invoking the defense production act thing so that may give him the power to mandate no liabilities by fiat.
Wonderful system we have here. I thought on school house rock I learned “no more king”.
I think hyper wages combined with extensive PPE and medical care for all workers.
Logistically this will be amazingly difficult. I suspect we will end up with people dying from corona and people starving.
We need to have someone managing it who can adjust quickly and has the latitude and resources necessary. Again not sure how much buy in you will get from people or congress until tens of millions of people are starving to death.
In an ideal situation I could see paying people a thousand dollars an hour with room, board, health insurance and medical care and state of the art PPE. That makes me believe it is possible. However in reality/practice we know it’s going to be a bump to $9 an hour and a second washable mask.
Basically food processing needs to operate like an infectious disease research center. Like I said though, I have zero confidence in us sidestepping a disaster here. Just demanding food processing plants stay open isn’t going to accomplish anything.
You in Southern California? If we can get you approved with my insurance I’d love to throw some business to a UPer, it would have to be asap though because we’re currently living with 1 bathroom and no oven and it sucks lol.
I don’t think any of this is possible at anywhere near the scale needed to produce and distribute enough food for everyone.
and as far as actual famine goes, most of that will be in other countries. We are certainly looking at hunger, plus restrictions on exporting food well before famine in the USA. Of course hunger is no joke. Plenty of malnutrition as it is.
I am feeling slightly more optimistic lately though with the rates going down and the prospect of a vaccine going up.
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Doesn’t seem like people will starve if meat packing plants have to shut down or scale back. Most other agricultural is a lot less labor intensive and more automated. Like six guys operate a huge grain elevator.
He lives in Massachusetts. I’ve been living with one bathroom for about 15 years and no oven for about 2. I really should fix that oven. Edit: 18 years on the one bathroom - previous house also only had 1.
Pence is in charge of the virus task force and thinks a negative test makes him immune.
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrDenaGrayson/status/1255234630724313089
Pence also said he wanted to look workers in eye to thank them. He thinks the masks cover your eyes.