COVID-19 (2): Turns out it's going to be pretty bad actually

What is your cousin doing for money ?

I mean, could these companies still turn a profit if they offer the workers better pay and benefits ?

I’m sure they’d have less walk offs if people were making better wages…

Even in a no vaccine and reinfection scenario I guess it is most likely that reinfections will be of similar severity of first infections. This would most likely decrease the number of very severe cases by the number of people who died in the first infection.
People who are short term immunocompromised will be added to the second round of severe cases, but I don‘t think their number will be high enough to make up the difference.

It’s pretty amazing though these stories where 400 out of 2000 people in a factory get it. That’s surely the result of absolutely shitty testing.

If there is no immunity or vaccine then people will go back to work and damn the consequences. People will take the 2-5 percent chance of dying over starving. The only reason governments are supporting people in lockdown is because the expectation is that better treatments will be found but if it takes too long then people will go back to work and the susceptible will die.

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It’s the video that’s caused many people to think twice about exercising outdoors – but one of the study’s authors has been quick to stress that cycling and running are “not big risks” for coronavirus.

“Cycling and running are not big risks for #COVID19 spread. But moving closely in slipstream is. This holds everywhere, also when walking in supermarkets, shops, etc. No need at all to ban running or cycling,” Prof Blocken told The London Economic .

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I haven’t seen any solid evidence of reinfection - link ?

Seems like this will clearly present itself with nurses / doctor exposure…

She was working a few jobs before the Amazon job, not sure if she was able to get work that way, but she was staying with her parents anyway so I think she can go a while unemployed. I told her about a month ago to let me know if she needed help and haven’t heard anything, so we’ll see. Hopefully she’s ok, and hopefully she knows she can ask if she needs to.

I haven’t talked to her directly about this latest news, her sister told me. I asked if she could collect UI depending on how it went down and she wasn’t sure.

I don’t know where you got the testing numbers, but Austria has a higher number of tests per-capita than Germany as of right now on COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer. (Austria 16.5k/M, Germany 15.7k/M).

Lockdown will ease up slightly starting today, with smaller stores <400sqm allowed to open again. There are restrictions how many customers / square meter can enter the stores and wearing a mask when shopping is mandatory. Gradual relaxation of measures is planned in 2-week steps, i guess that gives them enough time to evaluate if they can keep the spread controlled after each change.

“Moving closely in slipstream is.”

If you go for a walk and someone walks/runs past you, which is outside of your control, you’re suddenly moving closely in slipstream for a few seconds. This is one reason I was walking late at night. It’s why I go down to get mail/packages late at night, too.

Now if someone has no underlying issues, good for them, make your own decisions. As an overweight asthmatic, I think I was on point with being concerned about this stuff.

The point also isn’t to predict everything perfectly, it’s to be cautious and analytical and avoid risk. I think doing things that look silly when done is necessary to stay ahead of the curve, especially since news from research elsewhere usually doesn’t pierce the US market for days/weeks.

Given the way exponential growth works, if people didn’t think you were overreacting in all of March, you were drastically underreacting.

Or some other cause of heavy breathing.

Then the best thing is for people not to use fake news/dubious science about reinfections etc to speculate about how this will bring the end of civilisation etc.

We all have a responsibility and a selfish interest in discussing this rationally.

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This seems like a case where precedent is established.

Employment Division v. Smith held that states are not violating freedom of religion when banning general use of peyote. When Congress tried to overturn this law with the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, the Court ruled that its application to state and local government was unconstitutional in City of Boerne v. Flores.

In Ward v. Rock Against Racism, the court upheld time, manner, and place restrictions against speech so long as they were content-neutral, narrowly-tailored, and serving a compelling government interest.

There is a clear government interest here. The laws applied to everyone and did not single out a specific religion or religion in general. I can’t imagine this case has any chance of winning. It’s really all about feeding the martyr complex narrative that some religions are fond of encouraging.

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I can confirm this. I work part time at a church. They immediately shut everything down and went online after the recommendation was no groups larger than 50.

I normally get 3-4 spam calls a day telling me i need to sign up for health insurance or my car warranty is expiring, I haven’t gotten a call in over 2 weeks. One of the few bright spots in all of this.

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Right it’s not zero risk, it’s just that popping into the shops for some milk is probably a bigger deal. The article I saw asked you to envisage that everyone is smoking. If you go near someone smoking outdoors you get a whiff of smoke, sure, but imagine everyone in a grocery store is smoking. Personally going out for a walk or a jog is so important to me that the risk is negligible in comparison. To some extent that’s easy for me to say as I’m a low risk individual in a very low risk jurisdiction.

Speaking of which, things here in SA are generally going very well, case numbers since 5 April:

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There’s an asterisk on this though: today an ICU nurse at Adelaide’s largest hospital tested positive. As a result, 22 other staff have had to go into quarantine. Hopefully the hospital doesn’t throw out any more new cases.

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The Spanish General Council of Official Podiatrist Colleges released a statement last Thursday saying several coronavirus patients had shown lesions to their feet “similar to those of chickenpox or measles”.

The professional body said “numerous cases” where coronavirus patients had lesions on their feet had been found in Italy, France and Spain – a “curious finding” that has being witnessed by both dermatologists and podiatrists.

This symptom has been detected “especially” in teens and children with coronavirus; however, some adults have also presented with foot lesions.

“They are purple lesions (very similar to those of chickenpox, measles or chilblains) which usually appear on the toes and normally heal without leaving a mark," the statement read.

Australia and South Korea are #1 and #2 so far though, not much of a mention of that in that article. Besides that I agree,it may be more of a situation where if a country is progressive enough to elect a female leader then it is smart enough to hire more intelligent leaders regardless of whether the current leader is a woman or not

Yeah definitely just think it’s a general marker for good progressive governance, rather than that these women are somehow pandemic supergeniuses, because no random political leader is going to be particularly well equipped to deal with this kind of situation. I guess you could argue women are more inclined to listen to the experts.